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P Johnson MTM

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Prince of Paisley, Mar 7, 2011.

  1. Dwarfer

    Dwarfer Active Member

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    They are a MTM business, and part of the fitting process include putting a standard size jacket on you and tweak as necessary.

    I wonder whether you could just order a standard size 40 or whatever, and Di the alterations at your own cost? That way you are literally just buying off the rack...
     
  2. charliechan

    charliechan Senior member

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    Does anyone remember watching that interview with Patrick where he seemed quite against the whole 'standard sizing' of ready to wear in the suiting industry (for his own business anyway) because and I paraphrase, no one fits into standard sizes like 38, since it wasn't made for them. - something like that?

    I just hope he doesn't lose focus on what made his business so popular in the first place..
     
  3. Dwarfer

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    Ok I should rephrase - maybe I gave you the wrong idea.

    PJ is certainly a MTM business - so they won't create a custom pattern for you. They will fit you with a standard jacket, and alter from there. Once that's done they will record all measurements that were done and from that point on that becomes your 'pattern'.

    One of the previous poster was fairly desparate for a PJ suit so I suggested that he might want to contact PJ to buy a 'standard size 40'...but I doubt PJ will sell it exactly for the reasons you posted above

    PJ has been selling a bit more of RTW stuff recently but they are mostly accessories - so I wasn't implying that they were looking to become the next Herringbone and sell suits off the rack.
     
  4. charliechan

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    Oh... apologies, I wasn't suggesting that you were trying to suggest something :)
    I just thought it was interesting since they have indeed started an online store and was wondering about the future plan for his business.
     
  5. sochumpy

    sochumpy Well-Known Member

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    pull your pants up mate! [​IMG]
     
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  8. TheWraith

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    Bad photo of Johnson in that article.
     
  9. bhall41

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    Finally got around to visting P Johnson today. I met with Tom at the South Melbourne store. He is a very affable guy. I selected a mid grey, glen plaid cloth from the Dugdale book. Soft ropped shoulders, 3 roll 2, side vents, side tab fasteners, cuffs etc. Tom persuaded me to go with wider lapels - interested to see how that turns out! Maybe too Tom Ford? :embar:
     
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  10. lolscoolcat

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    hey mate,

    just doing some research on some suits at the moment?

    did you get an extra pair of trousers? were you provided with a costing breakdown?

    I've seen that each consignment is priced approx ~1.3k?

    thanks
     
  11. lolscoolcat

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    hey mate,

    did you get an additional pair of trousers?

    whats the cost like for a commission like this?
     
  12. bhall41

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    I didn't order an extra pair of trousers. The suit was $1400.
     
  13. Dwarfer

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    Don't quote me but I believe an extra pair of trousers would be about one third of the host of the suit.

    Also depends on the fabric you choose. Typical suit starts at $1500, non hand finish.
     
  14. npvpositive

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    Newbie poster. Thank you to everyone for all the useful info on this thread.

    I've just made an appointment for my first suit at P Johnson. My suit journey has been OTR Zegna/Corneliani, etc, then moved to MTM Zegna, then for the past few years have been getting my suits made at Adamo in Leichardt. He's very good, no complaints. But sometimes you just feel like a change and I don't want to go through the long bespoke process right now . . . plus from what I can see on this thread Adamo is 2x-3x more expensive than P Johnson and I'm feeling poor!

    BTW, have been getting my shirts made by Charles Nakhle in Parra. Any views on how P Johnson shirts compare?

    Anyway, will post a comparison when I get the suit.
     
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  15. Sceps

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    I'd stick with Charles when it comes to the shirts. From what I have seen charles has a lot more fabrics to choose from, plus i'd rather use a specialist shirt maker.
     
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  16. TheWraith

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    +1
     
  17. ColdEyedPugilist

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    Uh no, I don't agree.

    I use both as they have different strengths.

    Charles is the King Shirtmaker in Australia. No doubt about it. His fit is spot on perfect AND the work is done in his shop; it's a great feeling to watch your shirt being finished right before your eyes. Also, he uses very good fabrics such as Alumo and Sic Tess. However, he likes a traditional, quite stiff collar with sewn-in collar stays. Patrick's shirts may be MTM, and therefore, have limitations with regard to fit, but the collar roll on his lightly fused tall semi-cutaway collar is exquisite, and the block is a little more contemporary. Moreover, because my body proportions are not all that unusual, MTM is a viable option. Lastly, Charles' shirts, as expected of bespoke, do tend to cost more. Nothing wrong with this; it is a quality, true bespoke product after all.

    Depends what you want.
     
  18. TheWraith

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    Plenty of good shirtmaker options out there. Quite a lot of them are on this very forum.
     
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  19. tchoy

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    Charles can also do collars with very light fusing or no fusing and collar stays that are not sewn in if you ask him to, most of my shirts from him are finished that way.
     
  20. npvpositive

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    Charles Nakhle talked me into trying the sewn-in collar stays and I have "never looked back." Never had any problems with pressing, etc, and it's just one thing less to worry about in the morning and when I'm travelling.

    While they look great, I do find his fused collars a bit stiff compared to the soft comfort you get with an English shirt like T&A or H&K. That's the main reason I was considering trying MTM shirts from P Johnson. Maybe I'll experiment with a non-fused/lightly fused from Charles instead.
     
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