Oxxford Suit Sizing

[Old School]

Do Oxxford suits and sport jackets run true to size in the shoulders? I ask because I've been looking at a number of items on Ebay and the shoulder measurements run the gamut. My off-the-rack suits are all 39R with shoulder measurements averaging approximately 19". Conversely, Ebay sellers - most of whom appear to be experienced in selling mens clothing - are listing shoulder measurements for 40R at, variously, 18", 18.5", 19" and 19.5". I've even seen items which are labeled 43R and 44R with 19.5" shoulder measurements. I know that alterations can affect this dimension, but I've looked at enough items that exhibit such great variations that I'm not sure that they're all been altered. Should I trust the shoulder measurements or just bid when the seller shows a 40R label?

 

[NoVaguy]

Oxxford has a number of different models (gibbons, manhattan II, owentsia, etc.) I know my size in the gibbons and owentsia, so I just bid based on the model and tag size.

edit: of course, i'm bidding on nwt garments. used garments are going to be altered, so the size measurements can give you an indication of what alterations have been performed.

 

[Old School]

Of the various Oxxford models, which has the fullest cut?

 

[marc237]

I believe the Owentsia. But a cautionary on buying used Oxxford. I am a 42R in an Oxxford Owentsia, but my tailor took in the right shoulder a tad and chest, back, sides considerably more. If the jacket were on e-bay post alteration, measurements would be quite different than if measured NWT.

 

[rssmsvc]

Don't trust the measurement standard size and check specifics. My suggestion is to go into a retailer that carries Oxxford and try on different model's and sizes so you know what size you want.

For instance in Belvest, RLPL, Isaia , I am a perfect 46R. In Oxxford 46R Gibbon's 3Btn Dual vent I am swimming in the jacket. The shoulders and chest are all wrong and the 44R is perfect in everything but the waist. However, Oxxford Crest in a 46R is perfect fit for me as is the Manhattan II.

 

[NoVaguy]

Originally Posted by rssmsvc

Don't trust the measurement standard size and check specifics. My suggestion is to go into a retailer that carries Oxxford and try on different model's and sizes so you know what size you want.

For instance in Belvest, RLPL, Isaia , I am a perfect 46R. In Oxxford 46R Gibbon's 3Btn Dual vent I am swimming in the jacket. The shoulders and chest are all wrong and the 44R is perfect in everything but the waist. However, Oxxford Crest in a 46R is perfect fit for me as is the Manhattan II.

aren't belvest and isaia euro sized? you're not doing the drop ten thing to get the size, are you? a euro 56R is more like a us 44r.

i wear a 54L in belvest, and a 42L in the oxford gibbons cut. both fit very well.

 

[grimslade]

Some Belvest, made for the US market, have US sizes inside.

I have a Belvest 44R that fits wonderfully. But I find that an Isaia 56 is gigantic on me. I guess I'm a 55 Isaia. But I'm holding onto an Isaia suit I picked up recently in a 54 that I fully intend to fit into soon.

 

[rssmsvc]

Originally Posted by NoVaguy

aren't belvest and isaia euro sized? you're not doing the drop ten thing to get the size, are you? a euro 56R is more like a us 44r.

i wear a 54L in belvest, and a 42L in the oxford gibbons cut. both fit very well.

I think it depends on which retailer the suit is intended for, because each shop can ask them to cut the suit a bit larger or smaller. I have seen Belvest with 4, 6, 8 , and 10 inch drops. Isaia 56R is my perfect size and comes out to be close to a RLPL 46R from St. Andrews. The Chester Barrie RLPL ones were looser but still perfect for the size.

 

[NoVaguy]

Originally Posted by grimslade

Some Belvest, made for the US market, have US sizes inside.

I have a Belvest 44R that fits wonderfully. But I find that an Isaia 56 is gigantic on me. I guess I'm a 55 Isaia. But I'm holding onto an Isaia suit I picked up recently in a 54 that I fully intend to fit into soon.

Interesting. My sole belvest was intended for the US market (for Louis Boston), and I'm pretty sure it was tagged in european sizes.

 

[Mark Seitelman]

Generally, Oxxford cuts a full garment true to size.

Different models have variations on the shoulder.