Oxxford MTM @ Barneys

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  1. slaavwmr

    slaavwmr Senior member

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    Anyone have any experience with Oxxford MTM at Barneys?
     


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    I've done Oxxford MTM at NM (in Atlanta, Boston, Houston, and Washington, DC). These days, expensive as heck (slacks, e.g., $800 on up, at least for the fabrics I was interested in.), but I've never had any problems.

    JV
     


  3. Mark Seitelman

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    I'm sorry to take business away from Barneys, but since you are in the NY area, why not go to the Oxxford Store on E. 57th St. between Park and Madison?

    The Oxxford Store sells only Oxxford, and the staff can advise you on the best model and fit. In comparison, the sales staff at Barneys are selling approximately ten different lines. There is no way that any of its salesman can have as much knowledge and experience as the sales staff at the Oxxford shop regarding the Oxxford product. Also, Oxxford has quite a few models, and Barneys might carry only two of the many offered. The sales help may not be able to advise you on the many models available. E.g., I ordered a model which for me is as good as bespoke, but the model is not available in RTW in any store in the NYC area. You would not be able to find such a model by shopping at a multi-line store, such as Barneys.

    Furthermore, the shop is in direct contact with the factory. There is less chance of mis- and non-communications.

    The store has excellent alterations. Much better than Barneys. The shop hand sews the sleeve buttonholes. Barneys does not.

    Last, the store can make-up a suit not only with the Oxxford MTM cloths but cloths outside of the program. They can make-up a suit in unique end-bolts at a significant saving. You can get a $4,000 suit for $2,400 if you pick an appropriate end bolt.

    The price would be the same as Barneys. Indeed, an end-bolt would be a bargain.

    If you care to try them mention my name to either George (the manager), Tashae, or Andy.

    Good luck.

    Mark Seitelman
     


  4. slaavwmr

    slaavwmr Senior member

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    Thanks for the post. The truth of the matter is I asked after i ordered. I went with Barneys for 2 reasons. 1) They were having a MTM event and there was no difference between RTW and MTM. 2) Barneys is open on Sundays and I can't go shopping in NYC any other day. Oxxford is only open Monday-Saturday according to the web-site.

    I guess the reason I asked is I just want to set my expectations. Should I be optimistic or resigned to a struggle.
     


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    All I can say is be very firm and demanding of the Barney's in store tailors.
     


  6. Mark Seitelman

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    The Oxxford Shop is open late on Thursday, and if you called they might be able to make an accomodation.

    However, if you must go on a Sunday I would recommend Bergdorf over Barneys based on the tailoring and sales staffs. I would assume that the prices would be the same, but I would call first.

    If you go to Bergdorf, ask for David Bernstein or Frances Preston, and you can use my name.

    Good luck.
     


  7. Mark Seitelman

    Mark Seitelman Senior member

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    I'm sorry. I did not see that you already placed your order.

    Insist on being fitted by the best tailor, and tip the tailor. Make it plain to the salesman that you want to establish a solid relationship and that you want first class tailoring. Also insist on hand sewn buttonholes on the sleeves.

    I think that you will do fine.

    What model did you pick?
     


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    I know one of the better tailors at Barney's left for Paul Stuart last year.
    As for Bergdorfs, I have not had any better luck with their tailors or salespeople. BG finally got rid of my "salesman", this criminal named Patrice.
     


  9. Mark Seitelman

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    I'm sorry to hear that you had a bad experience at Bergdorf. As a whole, its sales staff are the best in NYC.

    If you use David Bernstein or Frances Preston on 2, you'll never have a problem.

    If you want Loro Piana bespoke (yes, it's real bespoke), see Eric Barsky in the Loro Piana department on 1. You can also see Jeff Peskin.

    Good luck.
     


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    Thanks, SOB. There is a new salesman on 2 who just joined from Korshaks in Dallas. I believe his name is Michael. He seems like a decent guy.
     


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