Overhyped beauties

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by esquire., Aug 17, 2004.

  1. Mike

    Mike Senior member

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    Don't want to hiujack this thread too much but in response to vero group's post: its not just our society that hold certain people as celebrities and "worship" them.  William Shakespeare was a celebrity in his day, and people flocked to the theater to see his newest plays. Back then Shakespeare plays were not the "high art" they are today, they were escapest "entertainment," as you put it, that the peasents and the gentry could see together. People would talk during the plays, hiss and boo the villians, and eat hazelnuts like people in modern times eat popcorn. The Chinese had opera singers that people loved to see, and would give their children up to opera schools for training at a very young age (a la the film "Farewell, My Concubine" ).  Even the ancient Greeks had athletes, actors, and politicians that they held as celebrities, and worshiped (Ceasar anyone?).
     


  2. vero_group

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    Point taken; that's why I said "the degree" is truly sad.
     


  3. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    I think that this is intrinsically true in the very concept of celebrity. Celebrities are generally set up as archetypical figures. Actual human being are far more complicated, and the traits and characteristics they are famous for are, except in the most extreme cases, exaggerations of a small facet of a particular individual.

    I think that the *really* pathetic thing about modern celebrity is how many are famous merely for being famous, or worse yet, for merely being rich. How is it that people like Donald Trump is looked up, when by all accounts he is an arrogant, self-promoting, lech, and his only accomplishment has been to make money and put his name up all over New York?
     


  4. Brian SD

    Brian SD Moderator

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    Paris Hilton and her sister were shopping at the Caesar's Palace forum shop mall when I was in Vegas this weekend, and when people found out she was there, they all rushed like a big angry mob up to the D&G window and took pictures. I was so ashamed to see my family do the same.
     


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    You know, I've met people with quite a bit more money than the Hiltons, and you know what? No one was rushing to take their picture, so I have to ask: What gives? How come no one rushes to see George Soros? Or Larry Ellison? They have more money than the Hilton sisters, and are a lot (I cannot emphasize this enough) smarter. Jon.
     


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    Tacky.
     


  7. faustian bargain

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    the people who are rich yet not 'celebrity': i would bet they simply don't want to be celebrity. there are exceptions, but among people of means, i would guess that generally the famous and not-famous are in those camps because they want to be.
     


  8. Bradford

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    Overhyped beauties -

    Cameron Diaz - she used to be hot, but what happened?

    Drew Barrymore - when did she become a sex symbol.... and why?

    Bradford - obviously not a big fan of the Charlie's Angels movies.
     


  9. Ambulance Chaser

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    renee zellweiger and gwyneth paltrow have brilliant futures, if they want to claim them.
    A friend of mine worked with her in a restaurant (they were both waitresses at the time) in Texas long before Jerry Maguire. Â Apparently, contrary to the "nice girl" image she cultivates on and offscreen, she was a queen b*tch. Â I don't care. Â That movie still made me cry - one of the few movies acceptable for a man to cry during, imo.
    I disagree. Â The only movies for which it is acceptable for a man to cry are ones in which a man is bonding with his father (Field of Dreams, Return of the Jedi, etc.) Â Once it is okay to cry when watching Jerry Maguire, it is a short drop down the slippery slope to Titanic, The Joy Luck Club, and the episode of Friends in which Ross kisses Rachel for the first time. Just my opinion.
     


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    What about Brian's Song? Who didn't cry?

    And you cried during Return of the Jedi? I just wanted my money back...
     


  11. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    The only movies during which a man can cry and indisputably keep his manhood intact are movies in which the protagonist either 1) sacrifices a crowning sports (or sports related)achievement for his personal convictions (Chariots of Fire), or 2) sacrifices pretty much everything (but keeps his integrity intact) in order to achieve a crowning sports moment (Prefontaine), and (usually) burns out after it. Jerry Maguire has both.

    Bonding with your father? Field of Dreams? Next thing, you guys are going to say that it is acceptable to sit around in some Iron John Camp bonding with other naked guys. Not to mention that the presence of Kevin "Waterworld" Costner taints any movie.
     


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    I honestly never cry when watching movies, but every time I watch E.T. my eyes get a little misty.
     


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    Schindler's List will make anyone cry.

    I did not cry during Jerry McGuire...I was waiting for the money to show, but it never did (can see tomatoes being thrown in my direction).

    Jon.
     


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    Ah, the male stereotype. [​IMG]
     


  15. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Okay, not a sports movie, but a deserving exception.

    No, the normative male. I believe in the greek ideal of sound body, sound mind. The ancient Chinese had a similar ideal, that a complete man should be versed in both martial arts and poetry, i.e. be both a scholar and a warrior. Maybe I'm a retrograde bastard, but I like that.
     


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