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Overcoming being let go from last job

Discussion in 'Business, Careers & Education' started by SenorMatador, Apr 6, 2011.

  1. SenorMatador

    SenorMatador Senior member

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    I thought I'd open up to the collective SF knowledge base.

    Got let go from my previous job (it was a revolving door, there were 3 people in the span of a year in my position before me), but I'm trying to get back into the business. Unfortunately, being let go raises all sorts of red flags.

    On the good side I have plenty of good references that will back me up from my old workplace and vouch for me.

    Current situation: I am on the cusp of a pretty awesome opportunity back in the field I want to work in. I have interviewed separately with at least 6 different people from this place, they have all vocally said they think I have the most potential of the interviewees for growing the position. One of them told my on the sly that the only reason the manager hasn't hired me is because being let go from my last workplace is a black mark on my record. Mind you, the last place I was at is notorious for high turnover.

    I have rockstarred the interviews, my references have spoken for me, but the only thing left is the hemming and hawing of the hiring manager over being let go. They also recently re-posted the job on a hiring website, but at the same time they continue to interview me.

    What else can I do? Am I on the losing end of a long battle?
     
  2. texas_jack

    texas_jack Senior member

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    shit loads of people have been let go over the past few years. I would spin it in that direction. Don't appologize, don't be ashamed, address it and move on.
     
  3. Douglas

    Douglas Senior member

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    If you can, your best bet is to get an audience with the hiring manager and explain the situation honestly and plainly. If you felt you weren't given a chance there, say so, and explain specifics of the situation - though be careful not to throw anyone under the bus or just sound like you're griping. You have to do it tactfully and carefully. Nobody likes a whiner.

    You might also suggest that you're willing to do a 30-day temp-to-hire or something similar that lets them retain a bit of flexibility - that is, if you want the job that badly.
     
  4. Hombre Secreto

    Hombre Secreto Senior member

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    Why are using it as a reference? How long where you there, anyway? Pretend it never happened... [​IMG]

    Sounds like it wasn't even your fault. 4 people in a span of a year? Place seems disorganized and with no strong leadership.
     
  5. SenorMatador

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    If you can, your best bet is to get an audience with the hiring manager and explain the situation honestly and plainly. If you felt you weren't given a chance there, say so, and explain specifics of the situation - though be careful not to throw anyone under the bus or just sound like you're griping. You have to do it tactfully and carefully. Nobody likes a whiner.

    Exactly what I have been refraining from. The last thing I want to do is bitch and moan, definitely a team player and I can carry my weight. (in a matter of discretion, the last place I was at was really that bad, like bosses always screaming at everyone bad) Thus, I don't go on at length about it, I address it and move on.
     
  6. SenorMatador

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    Why are using it as a reference? How long where you there, anyway? Pretend it never happened... [​IMG]

    Sounds like it wasn't even your fault. 4 people in a span of a year? Place seems disorganized and with no strong leadership.


    3 people before me lasted on average 4 months.

    I was there 6 months, the fact it lasted that long I wear as a badge of honor.

    Only problem is that was my first gig out of college, and I need to show I have real-world experience in this industry and for the position they want me for.
     
  7. Hombre Secreto

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    3 people before me lasted on average 4 months.

    I was there 6 months, the fact it lasted that long I wear as a badge of honor.

    Only problem is that was my first gig out of college, and I need to show I have real-world experience in this industry and for the position they want me for.


    I see. Yeah, don't cry about it being managements fault. Just tell them it was your first job, and you made some mistakes, but you learned so much from your first job. And use all the references you can get from that place.
     
  8. Piobaire

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    3 people before me lasted on average 4 months.

    I was there 6 months, the fact it lasted that long I wear as a badge of honor.

    Only problem is that was my first gig out of college, and I need to show I have real-world experience in this industry and for the position they want me for.


    Tough position to be in but as a hiring manager I'd have a hard time considering six months, fresh out of college, as any "real world experience." Consider just leaving it off.

    Here's a question: how do you refer to your separation? That you were "fired" or "terminated" or some other label that would indicate a reason other than your performance was not up to the employer's standard? I mean, anyone will believe that you were part of a RIF (reduction in force) these days. Or you could spin the revolving door aspect and say you only took the job as you had just finished college and knew the risk of a short tenure going in.
     
  9. SenorMatador

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    Any experience you can get in this business is a huge plus. This place I'm interviewing at is glad that I have some, on top of all my internships.

    I just refer to it as me and my workplace parting ways because ultimately we weren't the right fit for each other, and yes I also bring up the revolving door statistic. But any hiring manager can read the writing on the wall that I was let go.
     
  10. Hombre Secreto

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    Any experience you can get in this business is a huge plus. This place I'm interviewing at is glad that I have some, on top of all my internships.

    I just refer to it as me and my workplace parting ways because ultimately we weren't the right fit for each other, and yes I also bring up the revolving door statistic. But any hiring manager can read the writing on the wall that I was let go.


    How do you bring that up? Seems like something you have to be delicate with.
     
  11. SenorMatador

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    I just quickly go over being let go, and then I say that in my position I was the 4th person brought in after 3 people in the span of a year. Simple, gets the point across.
     
  12. Hombre Secreto

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    Hmm... kind of sounds like your throwing management under the bus. I wouldn't want to hear that as an excuse. Good luck, anyways.
     
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    So nothing you've read here has convinced you to change your plan of action over this?
     
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    Oh I've definitely decided I needed a new route. I'm not parrying the advice given at all. You guys have helped me out with that.

    I'll check back in with you guys with what happens, they're supposed to make a decision shortly.
     
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    It's the new age. A good chunk of the workforce have been let go at some point or will be let go during their working life. Most employers know this and don't see it as such a red flag.
     
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    I was fired from my first "real" job back in college. I was promised a raise due to high performance in the second month, but after months and months of excuses and procrastinating, my boss never gave it to me. I was young and didn't know anything about office politics, so I went to the director of finance and asked about their raise policy. She told me "You did the right thing in coming to me, you haven't done anything wrong!" A week later, my boss fired me for basically going over her head, after working there for over a year. She even had me unknowingly train my (highly under-qualified, vegetative) replacement! A truly awful manager who cultivated a toxic work environment. Lesson learned. Anyway, my friend was the second-in-charge, so if anybody ever asked me for a reference, I gave them his contact information. It's never come up in the 6 years I've been working since then, just make sure to not make the same mistakes twice.
     
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    I was fired from my first "real" job back in college. I was promised a raise due to high performance in the second month, but after months and months of excuses and procrastinating, my boss never gave it to me. I was young and didn't know anything about office politics, so I went to the director of finance and asked about their raise policy. She told me "You did the right thing in coming to me, you haven't done anything wrong!" A week later, my boss fired me for basically going over her head, after working there for over a year. She even had me unknowingly train my (highly under-qualified, vegetative) replacement! A truly awful manager who cultivated a toxic work environment. Lesson learned. Anyway, my friend was the second-in-charge, so if anybody ever asked me for a reference, I gave them his contact information. It's never come up in the 6 years I've been working since then, just make sure to not make the same mistakes twice.

    In the US, if you had proof you could have sued the shit out of them. But, yeah it's important to learn from your lessons.
     
  19. Eason

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    Oregon is a "work at will" state, I think that means you can fire anybody anytime for anything.
     
  20. SenorMatador

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    Good luck!

    Verdict came back: they're flying me in next week!

    They rarely fly anyone in, so my mission is to seal the deal.
     

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