I agree that Proof NY copied Outliers style. At least with the New OGs compared to there Nomads, and with the photo destinations "by the ocean, exploring the city". They defiantly could of came up with there own personal style, but seems they wanted to try and grow faster, and then take Outliers customers by making the same type of garments. I just wish Outlier would step in and say hey if a smaller company in the same location can sell pants with the same exact fabric for $130 and obviously make a profit and a great product. Why is the price so high for Outlier garments? Once again to point it out money is not a problem when it comes to cloths for me ill spend whatever amount if I enjoy the product. I am not rich, Im a full time student and work my ass off at a unenjoyable job.