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Outlier Tailored Performance Clothing

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Roguls, Jan 15, 2011.

  1. Roguls

    Roguls Senior member

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    Does anyone here have any experience with Outlier Clothing? Their stuff - especially their pants - look impressive, and I've been coveting them awhile. I was a bit taken aback as no real discussion has been made of their stuff, so, here's an opportunity.

    http://outlier.cc/
     
  2. brooklyn

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    I have a pair of the Keirin Cut Dungarees and really like them. I like them because the make performance clothing that doesn't look like it. I plan to pick up a merino tee soon. Lucky for me they are local.
     
  3. Becks23

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    I have a pair of the Climbers and they are some of my favorite pants of all time. They are relatively skinny but still very comfortable thanks to the fabric.
     
  4. Find Finn

    Find Finn Senior member

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    Why do you need special clothing for riding a bike?
     
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    ^The same can be said for just about any outdoor activity. I'm gonna say it's safe to say the fabrics and the cuts they use can withstand cycling in conditions where traditional fabrics may wear faster or inhibit movement.

    I've never used any of their clothing, but tried on their Taylor Stitch collaboration shirts over here at their SF shop. The fabrics on those were pretty nice, and construction seemed just as good as the ones on Taylor Stitch's SF made shirts. I can't comment on if the pattern would be better than a traditional OCBD for riding. I fit a TS shirt in 36 pretty well, and the S in the Outlier shirts felt pretty loose. I'm 5'6" and 130lbs more or less if that helps any.

    I will say that the soft shell like fabric for the pants look strange. If I was gonna wear clothes for cycling, I'd just go clipless with comfy clothes I could mess up and bring a change of clothes with me or leave some at work. The merino tees seem cool though. I might snag some of the v neck ones later.
     
  6. Find Finn

    Find Finn Senior member

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    ^The same can be said for just about any outdoor activity. I'm gonna say it's safe to say the fabrics and the cuts they use can withstand cycling in conditions where traditional fabrics may wear faster or inhibit movement.
    Seriously 50% of the Danish population rides bikes everywhere 350 days a year and 99% of those people wear what ever they want and the last 1% wears cycling clothes, so I don't get it. Most scandinavians looks like this when riding a bike and I have never heard anyone complain about their movement being restricted www.copenhagencyclechic.com
     
  7. Peter1

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    I don't love Schoeller fabric as an every day material. It reminds me of ski pants I had in the 1980s. IMO Outlier is on the right track, as it were. But they're getting closer...

    I have the perfect cycle/work pant in mind, which would be closer to what Rapha is selling, -- http://www.rapha.cc/rapha-trousers -- but with a slightly canted rear waistband and a better shoe/pant interface solution (perhaps hidden button/loop so you can roll them up.

    Still, the main problem is that once you introduce enough stretch into the fabric to be truly comfortable when riding, you cross over into a "technical" look, which doesn't fly in most workplaces.

    (Sorry, I've thought a lot about this b/c I ride a lot.)
     
  8. randomkoreandude

    randomkoreandude Senior member

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    very expensive stuff but great quality and does what its supposed to.

    not really worth it IMO unless you really bike often. again like what everyone else said, you can just wear normal clothes.

    but i have the merino tee but cant find it right now and had the merino hoody but sold it to someone else on this forum.
     
  9. Pangolin

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    Seriously 50% of the banish population rides bikes everywhere 350 days a year and 99% of those people wear what ever they want and the last 1% wears cycling clothes, so I don't get it.

    Most scandinavians looks like this when riding a bike and I have never heard anyone complain about their movement being restricted
    www.copenhagencyclechic.com


    Exactly. The problem is that in the US, riding a bicycle has long been marketed as an activity that requires the cyclist to always invest in new equipment, clothing or accessories. This is why you see fat old men on super expensive carbon bikes that give them the illusion to be like Lance.

    To get back to Outlier, they might make nice products, but the principle behind the brand goes against what cycling is for me, ie something anybody can do, as long as you find a bike. There are many better options when it comes to merino tshirts, even though they might not be "cut and sewn in New York City". And I also can't help but take a step back when making $200 canvas pants that will be get trashed requires a "philosophy".
    Basically, good products but stupid rhetorics.
     
  10. ghdvfddzgzdzg

    ghdvfddzgzdzg Senior member

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    I have the workwear pant and i wear it for live-event setup stuff because it's black and it's not jeans so i can dress it up, and they are pretty well cut, though the drop on the original version is for 1850s lumberjacks. they cut an inch from the drop on the second version, and I'd recommend it. durable, classy pants--at least, classier than anyone else around you setting up for live events.

    be aware of their vanity sizing though--size 28 with them is the roomiest 28 I've ever seen, probably because the rise is so high.
     
  11. MichaelPemulis

    MichaelPemulis Senior member

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    I also have the workwear pant, and two pairs of their shorts. I cycle regularly, throughout the year, and am all about wearing my regular clothes when I cycle. I don't ever wear spandex or jerseys or any of the other bike costume stuff, even if I am riding 75-100 miles. Outlier is solid, solid stuff.

    I love the fact that the fabric is lightweight, breathable, moisture and stain-resistant, and super comfortable. They look decent. They are not trousers I would wear all the time, but they are the best thing going for riding.

    Do you NEED clothing for riding a bike? Depends on how much you ride and how comfortable you want to be when you arrive at your destination. Having a pair of sweaty jeans on when you get to where you are going, to me, sucks. So I wear my outlier pants and enjoy myself.

    Can't speak to their merino stuff, but their other fabrics are very nice for "performance" clothing.
     
  12. ergj

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    I own quite a few of their items. In fact, I'm wearing a pair of their OG pants right now and I wear their hoodie all the time. I'll give a generic impression below, but if you have questions about any particular items, I can go into more details (I own a hoodie, t-shirts, and every pant except the lightweights).

    Their clothes, in general, look pretty good. But they're a bit of compromise that leans more towards performance than looks. Their pants do more or less everything they claim: feel like sweatpants but look like trousers; are pretty water resistant; don't smell; are lightweight but way more durable than denim. However, the OGs don't look quite as good as a pair of nice wool trousers. The khakis come pretty close, but I don't really like khakis much. The workwear fabric is awesome, but nice jeans look much better.

    But they're great for what I need. As an IT worker that commutes on a road bike, they get me to the office and I still look better than all my colleagues (granted, they're all typical IT workers). If I take a ride just to exercise, I can stop by the grocery store afterwards and look presentable.

    For most peopke, it really makes more sense to just buy an upright city bike and wear normal clothes. But you can always try out a pair and see what you think, as they have a pretty generous return policy.
     
  13. smz180

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    Personally, I think the schoeller pants serve a great purpose for riding in the rain alone. If you don't see the value in that you don't ride enough to buy these to begin with... That on top of being perfect for One Bag travelling in that they don't pick up odour, are light and don't seem to stain.

    I've got the 4season OG's (3rd Iteration) and summer shorts in dark grey and the light grey Merino V-Neck tee. The sizing was a bit finicky and warranted some exchanges which was costly from Canada.

    Sizing Tips: For pants I measure to be a 33 in their charts .

    The OG's fit one size (or more) large, I had to exchange for 32 which are still about a half size too big. But I still wear these the most, and am glad I spent the money every time I need to ride in the rain. Good in snow too, but the dry winter air leaves them a bit staticy to recommend for it.

    * I also tried on The Climbers in 33 which were also a size big in the waist but were a bit too tight in the thighs/butt for me.

    The Summer Short's in 32 ended up being about a half size to small for me, but still wearable. Because they have a drawstring I'd go with a 33 if bought again. Got these more for One Bag travel and they worked perfectly as both a bathing suit and shorts (although they can chafe if worn too long after a sea swim)

    Merino V: The Medium fit great as per their sizing chart, softest merino I've yet to wear although it did stain easily - light grey can be like that though. Overall I prefer Icebreaker V's and am looking to try a Rapha V on asap.
     
  14. ergj

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    I'm not sure why people are having so many issues with sizing. They tell you that they vanity size by about 2", and to make sure you get it, you can check measurements of waist, thigh, rise, etc on their site.

    I will agree that their clothes makes great travel gear if you like to pack light. Packing three wool shirts is better than packing 6 cotton shirts for a 3 week trip.
     
  15. Stokely

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    IMHO, I think the clothing is quite nice and comfortable. I've only rocked some pants and a windbreaker, and would gladly buy more as needed. I certainly don't need clothing specifically for biking most of the time. But I'm also a member of a forum whose members spend a shit ton of money on clothing which, in all likelihood, they don't need either. That said, I'd prefer to wear Outlier over a bunch of other 'performance' clothing while biking.
     
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    I'm not sure why people are having so many issues with sizing. They tell you that they vanity size by about 2", and to make sure you get it, you can check measurements of waist, thigh, rise, etc on their site.

    well as I stated, I did go by their sizing chart (agonized over it actually) and the pants I received were at least an inch big on me.

    It may have something to do with the higher back (ass crack cover) causing the measurements to be different from where they actually sit on your waist.

    Next time I think I'd go with a 31 which is on the chart as 33" even though my waist measures 35".
     
  17. Stokely

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    well as I stated, I did go by their sizing chart (agonized over it actually) and the pants I received were at least an inch big on me.

    It may have something to do with the higher back (ass crack cover) causing the measurements to be different from where they actually sit on your waist.

    Next time I think I'd go with a 31 which is on the chart as 33" even though my waist measures 35".


    That sucks dude, I can see how waist measurement on their site can be a little confusing. That said, I don't (especially since you agonized over it), think it is their fault. Know your specs bro. Know your specs.
     
  18. smz180

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    That sucks dude, I can see how waist measurement on their site can be a little confusing. That said, I don't (especially since you agonized over it), think it is their fault. Know your specs bro. Know your specs.

    What specs? There is nothing on this additional sizing irregularity anywhere I've seen, that is why I'm mentioning it.

    If you think it is mentioned please include a link and not generalities. If you think I'm somehow confused by Pant Size compared to the Waist size in inches on their site, please re-read my posts.

    Just letting people know how they fit, compared to the listed spec's on their site.

    Maybe other people could post their waist size and what size pants they fit, like...

    35" waist = fit 32 (34") in the OG's - it. 3 (with a 1/2 inch extra room)
     
  19. TheDroog

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    Why do you need special clothing for riding a bike?

    I think Outlier fills a gap in the bicycle clothing market, at least in America. Most biking done in the US isn't on an upright utility bicycle with fenders and a chain guard (which normal clothes are fine for). The clothes normally offered for road bikes and mountain bikes tend to be very technical -- spandex tights, bright yellow jackets with reflectors, sunglasses with air holes. It's great for riding, but its ugly, and you really don't want to wear that to the office.

    Wearing work clothes on a bike creates its own problems: grease smeared on your pant legs, chafing, sweating into your clothes, etc.

    Outlier makes technical clothing that looks decent enough to wear into the office (see pic below), and for that reason I'm a fan. That said, it's too damn expensive and wish they'd drop the price.

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  20. shoreman1782

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    So the consensus is--size down 1 or 2? Considering the slim dungarees. They have size 35 left, which would fit me in, say, Incotex, but a size 35 in APC jeans or J crew trou would be too big for me.

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