i had to go to ventura today which is about a 2 hour drive north of l.a. on the way up i saw a sign that said "camarillo premium outlets" so i decided to stop by on my way back. first up was the saks fifth avenue outlet which mostly had hugo boss, arnold brandt, and a few hickey freemans. they had ultra lousy cufflinks too. overall i didn't get the impression that this was really saks merchandise. next was the barneys new york outlet. i walked toward the suit section and after greeting me the first thing the salesman said to me was, "we have some great john varvatos suits. they are the suits you would find in an actual barneys store. everything else here is made especially for the outlets." i entered the polo ralph lauren store and noticed the suits there had green labels with the "lauren" brand on them. isn't this label made and owned by jones new york? i asked an employee if they ever got any blue label suits in and he had no idea what i was talking about. he led me to a man behind the register and asked him. his response was, "polo suits?" and he made an ugly face. lastly i entered the hugo boss store. it looked like a regular hugo boss store. they had the usual stlyles and everything was about $500-$600. typical prices from what i've seen. i asked the salesmen if they ever got any baldessarini in stock and he said he'd been there about a year and had never seen any baldessarini. so, i post this message because i've read so much about finding gems at outlet stores. i imagined that they were sort of like wearhouse sales with concrete floors and very little sales help--perhaps without dressing rooms even. the place i went to looked like any ordinary outdoor mall to me. the stores were well stocked and it seemed all too normal. how can one find deals at a place like this? i won't be going back.