Replying to an old comment but wanted to try or for anyone. I'm trying to decide if I should get the canoe club painter pants and seems like it's the same fabric as some of the fatigues was curious if the fabric stretched much in the waist? I'm a 32-33 usually and I tried asking their support but they were still kinda vague just saying size up and said their thigh measurement was a 10 which just seems unreasonably small haha.Also exhuming this thread. I'm a huge Orslow fan, have 6 pairs of their fatigue pants in various fits and fabrics. This is kind of a long shot, but Bureau Belfast has a bunch of the New Yorker pants on sale. I'm tempted, but given the measurements (slightly cropped, high rise, roomy thighs) I think they might have crossed the line from "comfy" to "baggy." Anyone tried them on, or own a pair?