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Orginal Penguin by Munsingwear

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Shirtmaven, Mar 14, 2005.

  1. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    on my way home Sunday, I stopped into the Orginal Penguin store on 6th ave between 41st-42nd. OMG. What crap. each garment was worse then the next. The kids who revived that look buy it at the thrift stores for cheap. Not that this stuff was so over priced. It was just the quality of the peice goods was terrible. The construction of the garments was ok. They stuck that stupid penguin on everything. Ugly plaids in retro colors. I know I am not the target customer. I am 47. too old for that look unless it is stuff that has been in my drawers for 20 years. I feel bad for the wannabe hipster kids who are going to shell out decent money for ssuch garbage. Am I wrong here? Carl www.cego.com
     
  2. AlanC

    AlanC Senior member

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    I see tons of Penguin Munsingwear at thrift shops. I've never noticed anything interesting about it. Is it a "thing" these days?
     
  3. j

    j Senior member Admin

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    Don't feel bad for them. Just hold this thread while they walk away.
     
  4. faustian bargain

    faustian bargain Senior member

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    (Shirtmaven @ Mar. 14 2005,07:01) I feel bad for the wannabe hipster kids who are going to shell out decent money for ssuch garbage. Am I wrong here?
    Don't feel bad for them. Just hold this thread while they walk away.
    FUNNY. "watch me unravel, i'll soon be naked..."
     
  5. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Strictly for the Urban Outfitters set. Nothing worse than prefab alt/vintage/hipster. Get the original stuff from a proper thrift or vintage store and preserve your self respect.
     
  6. Get Smart

    Get Smart Senior member

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    i slightly disagree...

    Penguin has SO many items in their line now that a lot are bound to be terrible (dont care for the plaid pants and most of the polos) but the flip side is there are also plenty of pretty nice shirts available that arent vintage reissues.

    i have a fair amount of vintage and modern Penguin/Grand Slam and like the line quite a bit. what i dont like is the typical Urban Outfitter hipster type that wears the stuff all "scruffy" like. the clothes themselves are fine for the most part, it's the typical wearer that ruins the line for me.
     
  7. Jill

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    I thought these were dorky when they were "in" the first time.

    I also burned most of my pictures from the horrible 70s.  I'm stunned and amazed and somewhat amused that the kids nowadays are wearing clothes from what was probably the most hideous era of sartorial history ever known to modern man. And they think it's cool. Eeek.
     
  8. nukular

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    I have one polo shirt and one pair of swimming trunks....all from the new "original penguin." I like them both...decent casual wear....though the swimsuit seems to be cut in the eurotrash...it must be tighter than a drum to show off my goodies...way which of course required going up a size....But its a cool pattern and comfortable...after upping the size.
     
  9. cuffthis

    cuffthis Senior member

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    If the late 70's/early 80's style of the professional bowler is the look you want, go for it. RIP, Earl Anthony (my bowling hero and fellow left hander) [​IMG] [​IMG]
     
  10. ken

    ken Senior member

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    Whats the difference between vintage and new? Oh yeah, a hierarchical caste system among those believing in some sort of ultimate sartorial truth and those who just want to wear a damn shirt.

    Penguin are the slimmest polos sold at reasonable prices (and maybe even at unreasonable prices), period. In a world full of reverse-tapered shirts, that's enough for me.
     
  11. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Harsh dude. No, actually the difference is that the vintage shopper is actually looking for something unique and has to rely on his own tastes and the guy who buys the Original Penguin at Urban is just someone whose tastes are dictated by a bunch of boardroom guys who themselves rely on "cool hunters" (yes, there is such a term) who observed what the vintage shopper was doing in the first place. In other words, the first is an original. The second is relying on the tastes of the original and buying an overpriced, highly marketed, mass produced, and often crappily made version of the original.
     
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    shoreman1782 Senior member

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    Harsh all around. I'm not sure if Ken's a pragmatist or has closely held ideals... shouldn't that be mutually exclusive?

    I picked up a sweater from this line that I really dig... crewneck lambswool, green with thick purple and thin white stripes. It sounds ugly, and it looked odd on the hanger at Marshalls, but for some reason it works. Also holding up much better than general mall-store wool sweaters - no fuzzing or pilling at all.

    Only problem is the penguin logo on the chest. I've considered just ripping it out, but I just wear a pin or two or a jacket, that covers it.
     
  13. Get Smart

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    ima assume you dont know much about vintage clothing since you asked this question...but being a vintage clothing collector there can often be a huge difference between something vintage and modern.  the first is fabric...now this prolly doesnt apply to Penguin overall since it was a 70s label and the 70s didnt always have the best fabric but in general if you get gear from the 40-early 60s the rayon gabardine they used prolifically back then is way superior to most modern casual fabrics in the way they drape and feel.  And the cut/fit of vintage shirts is very flattering for me, as most modern shirts are way too loose/baggy whereas vintage clothes have a slimmer fit to them.  A good example of the difference between vintage and modern from within the same company is DaVinci, who have been making shirts for 50+ years.  get one from the 50s and a modern one and the difference is night/day.  I have old penguin (when it was grand slam) and the fabric/cut is much nicer than the modern repro i have tried on of the same style, surprisingly, being a 70s shirt.
     
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    matadorpoeta Senior member

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    2 christmas' ago i was given an ugly, baggy, polo shirt by my grandmother. the brand was penguin, and the label said something about it being high tech golfwear. is this the label you guys are talking about? i had no idea it was in and i had never heard of penguin before. i wore it a couple of times around my grandmother, then i gave it to goodwill.
     
  15. Dan G

    Dan G Senior member

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    I work about 2 blocks from the Penguin store so I've stopped by several times. The quality of the merchandise is rather poor, but I've picked up a few items when they 40-60% off. I bought a blue hooded sweatshirt, a gray sweatshirt, and a few polos. All of them fell apart. The sleeves shrunk on the sweatshirts to the point where they were unwearable. The polos simply began to look like crap.
     
  16. Shirtmaven

    Shirtmaven Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I hope some one at PEI (Perry Ellis RIP) reads this.
    The polos were the best of the crap.

    Just finished Wiliam Gibson's book "Pattern Recognition" The "Coolhunter Cayce P would have hated the pneguin logo.

    Carl
     
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    matador -

    Penguin has only recently (past 3 yrs., maybe?) made an effort to be "cool" by resurrecting their older designs/color schemes. In fact, I believe someone still makes an entire Penguin line of golf-ish and corporate logoed stuff (my gf's old UPS Store uniform was Penguin/Munsingwear). Before that they made an effort to distance themselves from the 70s stuff. Your polo was probably pre- or just non- effort to look vintage.

    Get Smart -

    Quality/fit are in the eye of the wearer, but all the vintage "Grand Slam" and Penguin stuff I've ever seen has been in crappy shape, with junk poly or poly blend fabrics...

    I think it's interesting that unlike many other resurrected labels, I don't think penguin was ever cool in the first place.
     
  18. mrprlover

    mrprlover Senior member

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    Brad Pitt is also helping out the whole Penguin thing. Apparently he's been seen wearing the same old brown Penquin Polo time and time again.

    I think he also wears that stuff in Fight Club.

    e
     
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    I forgot clothes in the 70's were designed by carefree 20-somethings who would later have films produced about them in the form of 'Dazed and Confused.' C'mon, man... a boardroom guy is a boardroom guy, whether he was born in the 30's or 60's. Just because you're wearing clothes that somebody dictated to be 'cool' 30 years ago doesn't mean you're not as much of a tool as the kid wearing clothes that are dictated to be 'cool' now.
     
  20. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    Sure it does, because you have a different set of sensibilities than people did in the 60's or 70s, and have to sift through things yourself and decide what is still relevant to your personal style after all these years.
     

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