- Apr 22, 2008
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Precisely the look I hanker after and mentioned above ie. the Charles Ryder look. I'm obviously mixing in the wrong circles. Maybe they are less well heeled. The thing about dinner jackets is most people buy them and wear them for years, some inherit them, because they are worn so infrequently. Some of the events I've been to have a time warp element to them. I've certainly worn a real wing with a db over there in the past five years and didn't get the Bateman treatment. I don't suppose I'm ever going to get invited to one of Manton's parties so I'm not at risk.
I can relate to the "time warp" element. I am nearly identical in size to my father. I have been wearing various items of his formal attire for years, and now keep most of it as he doesn't attend many formal events in his retirement. Perhaps my favorite article of clothing is a shawl collared dinner jacket in burgundy velvet that was custom made for him by Tripler's back in the late 50's or early 60's. It's a bit Hugh Hefneresque, and for a while I was afraid to wear it to anything other than maybe a Christmas party. However, I received so many compliments when wearing it, especially from women, that I now wear it to social black tie functions whenever I feel like it. Maybe Hugh was onto something after all. Despite all the "rules", I think it can be acceptable (not to mention fun) to wear something a bit different to a black tie cocktail party or similar social event. So if you want to wear db with a wing collar or whatever, why not? I think part of pulling this off is to do it well - with beautifully made clothes that fit. The "after six" wing collar with clip on tie is not going to cut it with db, but do it right with the boiled collar and a made to size tie and you won't be such an easy target. In my experience, the only problem with boiled wing collars is that they aren't particularly comfortable due to their height and stiffness. Plus it can be a real bitch to get the thing on without assistance. I guess that's why the Charles Ryder set employed valets.