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Opinion re this Bell & Ross watch?

bhall41

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I know there isn't a lot of love for B&R watches here, and I hadn't considered them previously, but I admit to quite liking their new 'vintage' line (oxymoron I realise). In particular I like the Vintage BR 123 Original, pictured below.

What do people think?

I currently own two decent watches - a Grand Seiko SBGR051 which I wear as an everyday watch with suits, and a Planet Ocean 42mm. The Bell & Ross would fit somewhere between these two watches - less formal than the Seiko yet more formal than the Omega.

I was previously contemplating the IWC Mark XVI but the Bell & Ross somehow moves me more.
 

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are they a "manufacture" or do they still just use eta movts?
 

bhall41

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Originally Posted by Icarus
are they a "manufacture" or do they still just use eta movts?


I think they still use ETA movements, but I am happy to stand corrected.
 

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Interesting that they flipped the smiley face from 10:10.
 

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Thet B&R looks less trendy than most and pretty minimal. I like it alright but have you considered the Sinn 656 or 756? Or some Damaskos?

While I think the B&R looks fine and think it would be totally fine to go in that direction, the aforementioned watches, as well as some IWCs, are similar and, in my opinion, look more put together.
 

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Originally Posted by bhall41
I think they still use ETA movements, but I am happy to stand corrected.

You're correct, "123" stands for a watch with a three-hand with sub seconds automatic containing a Swiss ETA 2895.

Anyway, concerning Bell & Ross, I like some of their designs, but I feel they are generously overpriced. Above B & R is around $2900 I believe, for that kind of money I would opt for a manufacturer which is capable of manufacturing their own movements and has more heritage, although I realise it's totally subjective how much you value such things.
 

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in my opinion, B&R watches, after the fantastic marketing, its just sh1t: no history, swatch movement, overpriced, bad aesthetics.

Can't be helped, since there are only few brands they sell down under...

however, grand seiko piqued my interest, where did you get one?
 

scurvyfreedman

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Originally Posted by Icarus
are they a "manufacture" or do they still just use eta movts?
ETA or Valjoux or Lemania other such movements are necessarily bad. But, some makers finish them in house and replace some of the lesser parts with custom parts and others just take whatever the stock movement is and slap it into a watch. Also, some makers aren't set up to manufacture movements, but they do make cases, dials, hands, bracelets, etc. And, then there are some that do absolutely nothing except marketing, like Tag Heuer.
 

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They have no manufacture. All their movements are made by others.

I think that some of the vintage models are nice. I have one of them and the dial is lovely. Try to search them, I think black is not the best option.

I agree that a good alternative is Sinn. They used to make thir watches some years ago.
 

Lord Nonsie

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I have B&R vintage chrono and I like it well enough. I always think its a sharp looking watch. Sure the quality is not the same as an IWC, AP, or Lange, but then again neither is the price. I really like my B&R and still wear quite a bit, especially when a clunky cool watch is in order.
 

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Originally Posted by Lord Nonsie
I really like my B&R and still wear quite a bit, especially when a clunky gaudywatch is in order.

corrected
 

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Originally Posted by Ghumbs
Thet B&R looks less trendy than most and pretty minimal. I like it alright but have you considered the Sinn 656 or 756? Or some Damaskos?

While I think the B&R looks fine and think it would be totally fine to go in that direction, the aforementioned watches, as well as some IWCs, are similar and, in my opinion, look more put together.


I second the recommendation for a Sinn 656. I freakin' love mine, and I got it for $600 in like-new condition from TimeZone B&S.

 

bhall41

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Originally Posted by Ghumbs
Thet B&R looks less trendy than most and pretty minimal. I like it alright but have you considered the Sinn 656 or 756? Or some Damaskos?

While I think the B&R looks fine and think it would be totally fine to go in that direction, the aforementioned watches, as well as some IWCs, are similar and, in my opinion, look more put together.


Thanks for the suggestions - I like the Sinn 656.

Originally Posted by fss
You're correct, "123" stands for a watch with a three-hand with sub seconds automatic containing a Swiss ETA 2895.

Anyway, concerning Bell & Ross, I like some of their designs, but I feel they are generously overpriced. Above B & R is around $2900 I believe, for that kind of money I would opt for a manufacturer which is capable of manufacturing their own movements and has more heritage, although I realise it's totally subjective how much you value such things.


Thank you, and noted - normally I would prefer to go for a manufacturer

Originally Posted by ginlimetonic

however, grand seiko piqued my interest, where did you get one?


I purchased it from Higuchi, online. It has a 72 hour power reserve and is keeping great time. It is a somewhat stout watch (13.3mm) relative to its width (35mm excluding the crown). It is beautifully finished with a classic yet understated look - not dissimilar in design to the old Rolex Datejusts or the Omega Aqua Terra.


Originally Posted by economiayocio
They have no manufacture. All their movements are made by others.

I think that some of the vintage models are nice. I have one of them and the dial is lovely. Try to search them, I think black is not the best option.

I agree that a good alternative is Sinn. They used to make thir watches some years ago.


Thanks for your comments - I was aware that Sinn previously manufactured watches for B&R

Originally Posted by bleachboy
I second the recommendation for a Sinn 656. I freakin' love mine, and I got it for $600 in like-new condition from TimeZone B&S.




Nice watch!
 

Mr. Lee

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Originally Posted by bleachboy
I second the recommendation for a Sinn 656. I freakin' love mine, and I got it for $600 in like-new condition from TimeZone B&S.



I think the B & R is overpriced, and agree with most of the other comments. That Sinn is nice and I would also suggest you take a look at the Glycine Incursore, which looks a little more like a Panerai and they only go for about $650.
 

bhall41

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Originally Posted by Mr. Lee
I think the B & R is overpriced, and agree with most of the other comments. That Sinn is nice and I would also suggest you take a look at the Glycine Incursore, which looks a little more like a Panerai and they only go for about $650.

Thanks for the suggestion - I looked up the Glycine Incursore - unfortunately, at 46mm it is too large for my 6.5 inch wrists!
 

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