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Opinion about this navy blazer?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by m0bbie, Feb 24, 2013.

  1. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    I really don't know the final answer to this either, but for whatever reason when I think lounge suit I think something you would wear for business. When I think linen suit I think something else entirely. I might be wrong, but that's just been my own perception.
     
  2. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Since the suit was originally very much something not worn for business, but rather something you might wear between "work" (haha) and dinner (which would require evening clothes at this time and place), I don't agree with your assessment.

    That said, surely none of these original suits were of linen. Since the term "lounge suit" isn't really used much anymore, it's kind of pointless to argue over what its creators would have called a garment that didn't exist at the time, except maybe as something to be worn on vacation somewhere tropical.

    The modern term "business suit" doesn't necessarily exclude linen. It's yet another clothing term that, now that menswear has become less standardized, clearly excludes some suits, clearly includes others, and leaves a whole lot of grey area.
     
  3. Caustic Man

    Caustic Man Senior member

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    Well if it doesn't, it ought to.
     
  4. Saturdays

    Saturdays Senior member

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    Why go for that when you can go for a Brooks Brothers or Norman Hilton blazer?

    http://shop.nickhilton.com/jackets/the-charter/


    you'll love the Hilton one, and the BB ones are classics. Its a very versatile item in your wardrobe, better to get it right and spend a little extra if you have to. just so its clear, a blazer isn't formal, its meant for informal social gatherings.
     
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  5. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I don't know what you mean by "informal social gatherings" but for many men in the US, a blazer is fine, if not ideal, for the most formal social gatherings they will ever attend, even weddings and funerals. Plus most restaurants, religious services, or networking type social events.
     
  6. YRR92

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    I'd wear the hell out of the one in question. Better than most. Anybody who thinks patch-and-flap pockets are wrong with brass buttons isn't playing by the same rules as me.

    What's your source? I want one.
     
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  7. Loathing

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    Actually, the point was that flap+patch pockets and flannel and very smart & shiny brass buttons is a discordant mix.

    I think there's some confusion between:
    (1) a serge twill navy blazer with brass buttons -- the most formal odd jacket possible; on par with most lounge suits apart from when suits are specifically prescribed. This blazer would look out of place in truly "casual settings";
    (2) a superabundance of other blue and navy blazers -- these can be dressed either up or down, and can be in (almost) any number of combinations of detail and fabric. However, they will rarely be as formal as (1), nor will they have the same associations.
     
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  9. Caustic Man

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    I think all he was doing was expressing a like for the jacket the OP posted and wanted to know where he could get one.
     
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    If that is the case, then his grammar is wrong / I misunderstood.
     
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    The classic preppy version has brass buttons, even on a fabric like that.

    Seriously, why do so many people here hate brass buttons? They're fine. Desirable, in fact. The navy blazer with brass buttons is the classic, the version without them is the derivative variation. Flannel is perfectly fine, and a classic winter variation.

    And I agree with those saying that in the US, a blazer is just a step below a suit. A flannel version would be a little less formal than that, but still perfectly appropriate to wear to an office where suits are worn most days.
     
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  12. Caustic Man

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    Well, this is getting a little ridiculous. Tone and inflection are not transferred very well through the medium of an online forum, but I don't think the statement was meant to be offensive. In any case, I'm going to opt out of the rest of this conversation before things get needlessly complicated.

    OP, final thought on the blazer, I'm not a fan of jackets with any synthetic fibers. They don't breathe as well, don't feel as soft, and generally look cheap. That being said, I honestly can't tell by looking at the pictures of that jacket and I doubt anyone you are likely to meet will care if there is nylon in your blazer. So hey, get it if you want it.
     
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  13. Loathing

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    Yes, that's all very well, no one has disagreed with anything you've written. The point is: what about the flapped-patch pockets?
     
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    A detail that affects nothing in this case, as far as I'm concerned.
     
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    That's a very misleading thing to say for any reader who wants to learn about the levels of formality that different details imply. You're muddying the waters when this forum is supposed to be informative.
     
  16. unbelragazzo

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    Loathing, are you in the UK? As I think empty said, this is the classic Brooks version, so might be more reliably acceptable here vs the UK.
     
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    I am indeed. I think that might be the reason for the disagreement. I am fairly au fait with Ivy Style and American style, although evidently not enough.
     
  18. Loathing

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    Haha, it all makes sense now.
    Although, it is really the trifecta of buttons+pockets+flannel that I find incongruous. Take 2 out of 3 of those and I'd say you're okay in London, for the most part.
     
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