One cheese to rule them all

Discussion in 'Social Life, Food & Drink, Travel' started by Don Carlos, Jul 14, 2010.

  1. Cary Grant

    Cary Grant Senior member

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    Well, I like Red Hawk, so don't take it as purely a critique. I never buy it, but friends do a lot, so I eat it a good deal.

    The good:
    Lots of flavor
    Very, very consistent
    Always available
    Really high quality milk
    Conscientious company
    Very market driven taste

    The bad:
    It never has enough age, both because they ship it to retailers too quickly, and because retailers cannot keep it on the shelf.
    Rather one dimensional. It is a stinky cheese, but it doesn't have much else as far as complexity. It is not subtle, whereas most washed rind cheeses are stinky but also have various nuances.
    It is too market driven. Triple cream, stinky, rich... kind of a cheese "connoisseur" checklist.


    This is a very keen observation, Matt. Proper affinage and the resource expense that comes with it have not been propoerly embraced here.
     


  2. foodguy

    foodguy Senior member

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    of course matt's right. most cheese stores in this country still sell pre-cut and wrapped cheeses. but matt, do you notice a difference at places cowgirl runs? ferry plaza, the pt. reyes store? and though i'm sure you break out in hives when you get within 10 blocks of it, the cheese board?
    if i'm not mistaken, traditionally in europe the job of finishing the cheeses is done primarily by the market, not the producer (this is, of course, a curve, as one could argue "finishing" starts at milking).
     


  3. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    of course matt's right. most cheese stores in this country still sell pre-cut and wrapped cheeses. but matt, do you notice a difference at places cowgirl runs? ferry plaza, the pt. reyes store? and though i'm sure you break out in hives when you get within 10 blocks of it, the cheese board? if i'm not mistaken, traditionally in europe the job of finishing the cheeses is done primarily by the market, not the producer (this is, of course, a curve, as one could argue "finishing" starts at milking).
    My experience is that the cheese board, which I love, has the best aged cheese in the bay area. Still nobody ages redhawk. It sells before it has the chance to age. I haven't been to the Marin store, bit the ferry plaza store, which I have grown to detest, definitely has the youngest redhawk. He'll, it is not unusual to see them sell round after round while you wait for one of the assholes, err cheesemongers, struggle to cut a piece of montgomery's for you.
     


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  5. foodguy

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    My experience is that the cheese board, which I love, has the best aged cheese in the bay area.

    cheese-eating socialist!
     


  6. Toronto34

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    Where do i find mimolette, looks great.

    Would a whole foods carry it, or is it a more cheese specialty shop kinda-thing.


    Thanks
     


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    Mimolette is pretty much everywhere that would have cheeses other than the square sliced ones. Aged mimolette is a bit harder to find though - maybe WF, more likely a proper cheese shop.
     


  8. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    If you don't live in a large city with a good food culture, www.igourmet.com can really help with the cheese selection. Aged mimolette is on there. Cantaloupe cheese [​IMG]
     


  9. Mark from Plano

    Mark from Plano Lifestyle change - no homo

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    If you don't live in a large city with a good food culture, www.igourmet.com can really help with the cheese selection. Aged mimolette is on there. Cantaloupe cheese [​IMG]

    I've also ordered cheese and other things from Gourmet Library, which is affiliated with Wine Library. In fact during one recent episode of WLTV, Gary V. had the head of GL on and they did some cheese/wine pairings.

    I've enjoyed everything I've ordered from them. They are very helpful with suggestions as well. Doesn't look like they have any mimolette in stock right now though.

    I bought my mimolette at a specialty grocery store in town that has a good artisanal cheese selection.
     


  10. itsstillmatt

    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    cheese-eating socialist!
    I'm kind of like one of those Berkeley socialists but better dressed and without the socialist part. And it is cheese eating surrender monkey to you, sir.
     


  11. Cary Grant

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    All this cheese talk made me hop over to the cheese shop this afternoon.... just in time for the Neal's Yard Lincolnshire Poacher wheel to show up. 2 yr old. Tasty!
     


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    Venezuelan Beaver Cheese?
    Not today, sir.
     


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    If only we could get the real thing...

    Another vote for Epoisses. What do you mean the real thing? I thought we were getting the real thing in the States now?
     


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    Another vote for Epoisses. What do you mean the real thing? I thought we were getting the real thing in the States now?

    I think he meant raw milk Epoisses, not the pasteurized milk version that's authorized for sale in the US.
     


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