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On the Street in NYC...Oliver of Domenico Vacca

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by The Sartorialist, Mar 15, 2006.

  1. The Sartorialist

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    The shirt, suit and tie are awesome. The pocket square is criminal.
     
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    The shirt, suit and tie are awesome. The pocket square is criminal.
    Criminal good or bad? I kinda like it... It is a bit severe and doesn't add much flair/uniqueness to the outfit, but it ain't bad either.
     
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    Criminal good or bad? I kinda like it... It is a bit severe and doesn't add much flair/uniqueness to the outfit, but it ain't bad either.
    Criminal bad.
     
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    Criminal good or bad? I kinda like it... It is a bit severe and doesn't add much flair/uniqueness to the outfit, but it ain't bad either.

    I think that the outfit would improve through its subtraction, better to have no pocket square than a poorly chosen one.
     
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    The tie and quare are too close. A linen handkerchief would've been my choice, in keeping with the solids.
     
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    Criminal bad.

    I don't mind the pocket square, although I probably wouldn't buy it.

    Not too keen on the tie knot, and I think black ties are mostly for funerals. They look both too stark, and too boring - this is much like the arguments against black suits.

    Shirt looks perfectly all right.

    The suit is verrrry nice. On this, I like the ticket pocket. What sort of nap does the fabric have?

    Again, no cuff showing. How difficult can that be?

    Brown shoes would absolutely not work with this, I think.
     
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    I don't mind the pocket square, although I probably wouldn't buy it.

    Not too keen on the tie knot, and I think black ties are mostly for funerals. They look both too stark, and too boring - this is much like the arguments against black suits.

    Shirt looks perfectly all right.

    The suit is verrrry nice. On this, I like the ticket pocket. What sort of nap does the fabric have?

    Again, no cuff showing. How difficult can that be?

    Brown shoes would absolutely not work with this, I think.



    The shirt sleeve looks too short, but the jacket sleeve seems right.
     
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    It's a navy tie.
     
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    The shirt sleeve looks too short, but the jacket sleeve seems right.

    Why can I barely see the cuff, then?
     
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    The shirt sleeve is definitely too short, probably becaus ethe barrel cuff seems very tight around his writst.
     
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    Really don't care for the square, but like everything else about it.
     
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    Whoa. My pink shirt is almost just like that.

    The pocket square would have been nice if it matched the shirt, but that's my opinion. Everything else is excellent. The only Oliver Gerona getup that I didn't really care for was the corduroy suit.
     
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    Whoa. My pink shirt is almost just like that.

    The pocket square would have been nice if it matched the shirt, but that's my opinion. Everything else is excellent. The only Oliver Gerona getup that I didn't really care for was the corduroy suit.


    --- That is what I try to do. I either wear a white linen solid, or match the pocket square to the shirt, never the tie, (isn't matching the tie with the square now consider inappropriate?, at one time way back I think Flusser mentioned it was done, but now it seems cheesy) unless it's a motley pocket square then maybe a hint of the tie. But I'm not really into patterned squares much.

    --On page 216, Flusser states, "A solid colored handerkerchief should only be mated with a patterned necktie, and it ideally should not be of the same color as the ground shade of the necktie." "Wearing a matching handkerchief and necktie is a sure sign of an unsophisticated dresser". What he has done is made the pocket square too much navy matching navy tie, the sqaure and tie seem of the exact shade (although he has a tad of white) it draws the eye across the chest rather than toward the face imo. A solid white linen would have been perfect. Except for the pink shirt/ticket/cashpocket, it has a very Sean Connery era, classic James Bond feel.
     
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    Honestly, I could care less for all these rules that people put on dressing. I just go by what I think looks good, and usually it works out.
     
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    The reverse puff for handkerchiefs seems rather rare.
     
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    Jovan, no one is talking about rules here, just aesthetics. That would also not have been my choice of pocket square. Other than that, looks good. The interest is in the cut and quality, rather than flashy colors.

    Tom
     
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    Honestly, I could care less for all these rules that people put on dressing. I just go by what I think looks good, and usually it works out.

    The rules exist for a reason. I've seen a lot of people try and break them and fail hilariously.
     
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    It's a navy tie.

    You're right, I think. The same argument about it being both stark and boring goes, though.
     

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