Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by edmorel, Jul 24, 2012.
Which? The deleted one or the seafoam green one? Either way they're both PRL.
O/o I'd love to see this with a more formal dot tie in a similar tone but without the texture.
For arguments sake, the tie was solid but textured. The suit was what I believe is referred to as a functional solid. The shirt was a window with a white base. You may not have been able to see it but I believe that fell within the range of what you described in your OP. And since we're arguing, while this and the other thread had good language in your OP, the corresponding pics didn't do too well in helping the reader visualize your point IMHO.
Here's the same suit/shirt combo a bit more dressy (though Ed may nix for the flower).
Nice, I think that looks pretty good.
Too mafioso. I think it might be the mustache.
I have great hopes for this thread. I am always leery of patterns b/c I am colorblind. I have been known to mistake a violently checked jacket for a solid. Once simple pattern I can usually get away with but the probability of disaster increases exponentially with every additional one.
Even solids can be trouble. The tie above looks slightly off-white to me. As I doubt he would do that, based on past experience, I am going to guess it is actually pink.
Would too do that. Because of the bright sunlight in the full-figure shot you quoted, the tie looks whiter than it is; but it is, nonetheless, a herringbone weave of off-white and light gray:
That's not to say that I would not, or have not, worn a pink tie with this suit. In order to avoid being banned, I didn't post it; however, there was a bright, cold day a couple of winters back on which I wore this suit with a medium blue candy striped shirt, pink rep tie, navy/gray herringbone socks and white buck full brogues.
So, lesson is that solids need texture or quality of material?
Wait, there are people here who have issues with pink ties? Guess I missed that one.
I wear mine a lot in summer, and, while some who are insecure in their sexuality might be afraid of them, I can't see why they would be objectionable otherwise.
Unless you were referring to the full getup?
There is no wonder you're late.
Well, you can see my problem, then.
Interesting thread Ed, but I think it could be more challenging (and potentially educational for those who like all solids) if narowed down to just solids and those subbtle patterns/textures that 'disolve into a solid beyond kissing distance' as Corb recently coined it. While your examples in the OP are tasteful to me, both the striped shirt and neat tie will obviously be patterned from a couple of meters away. As such, I feel the pic in post #6 is a better example of how to succesfully pair near solids. Allowing even a single obvious pattern per fit makes this exercise kind of redundant with the CBD and Good Taste thread, especially so for the examples only showing the coat, shirt & tie. All this just IMO, of course.
Anyway, here are a few experiments with all (near) solids:
Sorry about the focus: Suit is navy nail head, shirt is an end-on-end'ish weave, tie is silk reppe
Spoiler: Full shot of the above
Fresco, poplin, silk reppe
Feel free to critique or use as examples of what not to do when pairing solids. For instance, I think the pairing of the cotton tie and shirt in pic 1 was less than successful...
It seems 'all solids' are just too boring to merit any further discussion. Not necessarily a bad thing I guess, but I wonder if it's good boring or bad boring...
^No, that first pic of yours is stunning, as is the last (with terraced rice fields in the back?). I am a huge fan of not only all-solid, but minimalist pattern and monochromatic combos as well. It focuses the eye on fit, and fit alone. Plus, most importantly, it exudes nonchalance and deflects almost all impressions/accusations of being a dandy or foppish Macaroni. The threat obviously is that you can come off looking like a flight attendant or other such uniformed individual... so I have my tailor add touches like contrasting stitching on some buttonholes and even show a bit of pocket square, which I see you've done. The Sartorialist photographs it often-
To me there's just something off-putting about adult men wearing paisleys, stripes, and colorful silk ties... which really only evolved since the early 20th century. Even during the extravagances of the 18th century, men kept the colors simple and subdued and didn't run around with herringbones or pinstripes, or tiny whimsical pictures on their neckwear.
I second Kaplan's remark, but this thread is already horrendously under used/posted/uploaded to. Making even harder for an outfit to qualify for this thread...
...regardless, a lovely thread.
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