On pattern coordination between jacket/shirt/tie.......................

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by edmorel, Jul 16, 2012.

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    I think stripes would work with the jacket. A smallish micro stripe, not a butcher. Or, if it must be a grid pattern, the scale needs to be smaller in that shirt to work on that jacket for me.
     
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    Ed, I like these SC's. Panta from your last run?

    Thanks.
     
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    I often combine four patterns, but I have no advice to give.
     
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    I will leave to ed to determine whether this comment fits the thread or not.

    I think when you are doing 3 or 4 pattern combos (ed is anti-square so no 4 patterns for him) it's best if at least one is "functionally solid." That is, it has a pattern but the pattern is so small that from a distance it looks solid. A nailhead suit, for instance, or a very small houndstooth tie.

    I don't think checked shirts are best with checked jackets. If you must have a pattern, stripes are better. The easiest to coordinate would be a hairline microstripe. I have such a shirt and maybe will photograph it later. Even a candy stripe might work, but I think in that case a solid tie is a must.

    The larger the garment, the easier it is if that's the one that is functionally solid. By which I mean, it's quite easy to take a nailhead or sharkshikn suit and pair it with a stripe/check shirt and patterned tie. I do this all the time. Hardest of all is when the tie has a micro pattern but the shirt and suit are loud. When the shirt is a mirco, the difficulty level is sort of in the middle.

    BTW, I think repp ties would work very well with the coats ed posted but the shirts would have to be solid.
     
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    ^^ The pattern of jacket #1 I would call functionally solid (I have the same cloth). Hence the combo works. Though I only wear repps or knit ties with mine, maybe a challis now and then

    The pattern of #2 is indiscernible to me from the pic hence I would also conclude that it is functionally solid. The tie also appears to be functionally solid, I can't tell the pattern from the pic.

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    In Ed's OP:

    The first fit is ok, if not necessarily smashingly successful. The second fit is the most successful of the bunch, IMO, and I rather enjoy it. The third fit has its problems, as others have pointed out.

    To my eye, the specific issue with #3 is that the pattern on the shirt is very similar, in scale, to the sub-components of the jacket's larger checks. Even though the jacket's check resolves to a much larger scale, up close its little houndstooths and micro-patterns are visibly similar to the size of the checks on the shirt. Also, there doesn't appear to be sufficient color contrast to make up for this scale problem. The entire ensemble seems a bit washed out.
     
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    Yep.

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    Manton, is this the kind of thing you're talking about?

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    ^^

    #2 is pretty good. #1 doesn't have enough color contrast between the shirt and tie for my liking, though. It lacks what the Foo Fighter would call the "pop" factor. Could just be the lighting in the photo, though.
     
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    Re: the shirt, yeah, that's it, I have some in pink and blue, pale is obviously the easiest to combine but darkish blue is not bad.
     
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    It's a combination of lighting and not that much color contrast. What you can't see that much on the photo is the blue patterns on the tie, which at least to me eye do well with the color of the suit and differentiate the tie from the shirt. But also, I don't think I'm as enthralled by this "pop factor" concept as perhaps some others are. But I don't know exactly what it means, so I can't be sure.

    Here's same suit and shirt (although you can't really tell b/c lighting shitty) but different tie and PS...you like this one better?

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