On pattern coordination between jacket/shirt/tie.......................

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  1. Manton

    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    these are 100% linen?
     
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    So you're saying that it looks bad because the colors in the pattern are uneven or not very strong and on a jacket-sized scale this looks bad?
     
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    I can't put my finger on why it looks bad. If I thought about it for a while I might think of the answer. All I know is that I have always hated and all the people I consider truly well dressed and whose taste I trust would never touch it.
     
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    Go for it.
     
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    Well I'm not sure if they've actually been made yet, but I think that's the plan - at least he hasn't mentioned any sort of blend.
     
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    I have two sportcoats in linen. One is a large scale brown glen check from Polo on their Princeton Soft model (the best looking RTW Ivy out there if you don't mind front darts). It is a loose weave, so it looks more like silk than linen. It is very casual. The linen is clearly not a suiting.

    The other is a brick and cream mini houndstooth from Avery Lucas following crazy Apparel Arts 30s mode. I think I put it in storage somewhere as it is a little too out there in terms of styling. In wool, the cloth would be a suiting, but it would never work in linen.

    Both sportcoats look fine to me, but I may not be a true Scotsman.

    The cream/brown/blue check above looks awful.

    I recall that iammatt has a patterned linen sportcoat but I can't recall any details.

    Ed: This turned out to be a great thread.
     
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    Both of mine are Polo as well. One is dark brown with a subtle tan windowpane, while the other is navy with a bolder white windowpane. The brown one always looks like hell, which I like a lot.
     
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    Oh, Doc, I recall the navy one, yeah, it's no good.
     
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    it's a great example of why linens should not be patterned, yes.

    though in truth I think navy window is a suit pattern and really never looks good as an odd
     
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    It's way too loud to be a suit. I'd even entertain the argument it's too loud to be a sportcoat. But it's fun for the summer.

    I can't see myself wearing a windowpane suit, so I get my kicks where I can.
     
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    I'm with you Manton, though I haven't always been. I have a [brace yourself] fancy striped linen suit I've not worn in 4 nor 5 years.
     
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    I agree it is too loud for a suit. I like a softer fuzzed out window for suits. But I still think it's a suit pattern

    Navy odds are very tricky. Basically a solid is the only one I think I would wear. I like some of the lighter blues in donegal or harris but not in dark colors.
     
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    Wearing all solids right now. Taupe/tan linen suit. Blue OCBD. Brown solid Shantung tie. White voile hanky in a stuff. Unribbed cotton socks. BandAid colored Lobb single monks. Straight, white teeth. No beard.

    My face is also unpatterned, because of early and liberal use of sunscreen and lack of worry (by and large.)
     
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    No offense taken. I sometimes get bored with more conservative ties, especially when CBD is not required.

    They're both Talbott. The colors aren't loud enough for Duchamp.

    I'll get over it.

    This my default for CBD. I'll wear only one patterned element or occasionally I'll add a patterned pocket square as well. What I now enjoy more than playing with patterns is playing with textures.

    Though I'm undoubtedly one of those who doesn't know any better, the wrinkling of linen interrupts a pattern and makes a pattern on linen jackets look incongruous to me. I do wear patterned linen shirts, for occasions that are informal enough to dispense with a jacket.
     

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