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ok, what would get you to become violent?

Discussion in 'General Chat' started by globetrotter, Oct 13, 2008.

  1. globetrotter

    globetrotter Senior member

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    what would it take to get you to throw a punch? coming off the wife's ass grabing discussion. what would it take to get you to throw a punch?

    I haven't thrown a punch in years. I have said, for years, that I wouldn't use violence unless

    1. somebody attacked me
    2. somebody raised a hand on one of my family
    3. I witnessed something that was obviously a huge violent injustess that I had the obility to stop


    last year, I was tested - I posted about it at the time. while I was walking with my wife, son, daughters and mother, a bum followed us down the street shouting obseneties at us, because I hadn't given him money. I can't think that anything would have been a greater insult, but I didn't touch him. at the time, I said I think that I would have been justified in beating him to a pulp, but I didn't - because I had specifically chosen a set of criteria and this instance didn't meet those critiia.

    likewise - I think that if somebody grabs your wifes ass in a bar, you are justified in beating on him, but I am not sure that I would do it.


    I would also say that if I were to choose to attack somebody, I would have decided that it was worth it to get killed or to kill in the confrontation - you never know where these things lead to.


    what are your thougts?
     


  2. Nouveau Pauvre

    Nouveau Pauvre Senior member

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    Someone stepping to my girl.

    Someone stepping to one of my boys.

    Someone being a bitch (not a bitch in the sense of havin' a pussy, but a bitch because someone's tryin' to fuck me)
     


  3. Milhouse

    Milhouse Senior member

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    The Art of War is a great book. Sun Tzu really spells it out when he says that a real warrior wins before going to battle.

    I grew up in a rough area. I beat the hell out of several people and I got the shit beat out of me on many occasions. I was smart enough to realize that if you win the fight, you lose because the police lock you up for a while, and if you lose the fight, you lose because you end up in the ambulance.

    So, it is a lose lose proposition.

    Don't get me wrong, I think the wise exercise of violence is an incredibly powerful tool and I would never say that it is no longer part of my tool kit.

    But, these days, if you want to spur me to violence, I better feel my life is in danger, or the life of a loved one is in danger; basically any situation where lethal force is justifiable. The goal becomes to stop the situation immediately and I won't hesitate.

    Anything less, and I win automatically because I walk away, rather than getting hauled off in a patrol car or ambulance.
     


  4. scarphe

    scarphe Senior member

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    i am in agreement with you if i ever was to get nto fight i ould only do so if i was willing to kill the person or persons, that being said i also go about with ability to take on more then one person person just because my experience has made me paranoid even in supposedly safe areas.
    but to engage i would have to fear for my well being ( not my life) and only show a weapon if there is more than one attacker or the attacker is armed as well.
     


  5. TyCooN

    TyCooN Senior member

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    1) Violence
    2) Someone who tests my pride hard enough

    When I respond with violence I expect the receiver to answer back with the same. Luckily for me, I have real good self-control, so stuff for #2 doesn't happen at times/places where there's a high chance for me to get into trouble.
     




  6. SkinnyGoomba

    SkinnyGoomba Senior member

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    It takes alot for me to get there, and an ass grab just isnt enough.

    Attack someone i love...well thats another story.

    Most of the everyday bullshit i dont feel is worth getting involved in, i've put myself in a couple stupid situations and luckly i'm still here, so i dont like to push it.
     


  7. Jekyll

    Jekyll Senior member

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    Well...I'm pretty close to being a pacifist. So I would like to say I wouldn't respond violently unless I felt it was necessary to prevent bodily harm to myself or another. Of course, I've never actually been put in that situation. But pride is not sufficient justification for violence IMO.
     


  8. gomes

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    In my view, I don't mind kicking some ass if someone tries to kick mine. I'm not too crazy about it (although it has been a nice stress release) (anymore?), but will do if forced to.

    On the other hand, I've recently found that listening to abuse without getting riled up, waiting for the guy to finish, shrugging and saying something along the lines of "I don't know whether to laugh at you, or to pity you" is almost as humiliating (and effective) as a back slap. By my experience, people feel really humiliated and leave instead of trying to smack you, which is a good thing.
     


  9. kwilkinson

    kwilkinson Having a Ball

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    Someone stepping to my girl.

    Someone stepping to one of my boys.

    Someone being a bitch (not a bitch in the sense of havin' a pussy, but a bitch because someone's tryin' to fuck me)


    M-
    You so hard and gangsta.

    Dat's some real shit homie.

    K-Dizzle
     


  10. King Francis

    King Francis Senior member

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    The honorable troika:

    1. Attack on me
    2. Assault against a friend or loved one
    3. Injustice that I can do something about

    I'd like to say that I wouldn't snap over an issue of pride, but I'm not sure. If guns and knives weren't so prevalent, I wouldn't mind getting into a fight over less serious things: issues of manners (like globetrotter's story of the bum), sticking up for a girl's reputation, etc.
     


  11. Thomas

    Thomas Senior member

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    It takes a lot to get me off my center and into fight mode - it would have to be imminent and serious harm before I drop the gloves and start swinging. That said, one of us gets carted off if it comes to that.
     


  12. Tarmac

    Tarmac Senior member

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    guys love to talk about what would cause them to "throw down"
     


  13. TyCooN

    TyCooN Senior member

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  14. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    1) Raise my taxes
    2) Criticize my pictures of foie gras
    3) Insult my wine

    I can't think of much else that I would get violent over.
     


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