OK to wear black shoes with khakis?

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by gary3594, Apr 10, 2008.

  1. johnapril

    johnapril Senior member

    Messages:
    5,663
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2004
    This was posted yesterday by a forum member. To me this is too dressy a shoe for khakis. I agree that it should be an informal shoe ie. loafer, driving moc. It is a beautiful shoe though.
    [​IMG]

    [/quote]

    This seems OK to me. I mean, 99% of guys would do that outfit with block front shoes. The color doesn't put me off.
     
  2. norton

    norton Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    99
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2008
    The military khaki uniform used to be with a black belt and a pair of black oxfords.
     
  3. brlfvr

    brlfvr Senior member

    Messages:
    814
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    I'm surprised this thread supports black shoes and light brown cotton pants here on this dandy forum. Why would anyone wear black shoes in the day time unless he had to wear black shoes in the daytime? Once a year, for a change of pace, maybe, but otherwise forego black if you are serious about dressing well.

    That sounds a bit antiquated or maybe conservative is a better word for my taste. To say that if you wear black shoes with light brown/khaki pants, or during the day for that matter means you're not serious about dressing well is just silly. And just because black shoes and khakis conjure up an image of GAP doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It can look a bit more modern and less suburban dad if that's what you want. Not to say brown shoes and khakis are suburban dad. Too many other factors dictate that.
     
  4. Dewey

    Dewey Senior member

    Messages:
    3,485
    Likes Received:
    27
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    That sounds a bit antiquated or maybe conservative is a better word for my taste. To say that if you wear black shoes with light brown/khaki pants, or during the day for that matter means you're not serious about dressing well is just silly. And just because black shoes and khakis conjure up an image of GAP doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It can look a bit more modern and less suburban dad if that's what you want. Not to say brown shoes and khakis are suburban dad. Too many other factors dictate that.

    I see "black shoes with everything" as the safest, more conservative way to go.

    Black leathers tend to be of inferior quality compared to brown and light brown leathers. That's why they dye them black.
     
  5. 0b5cur1ty

    0b5cur1ty Senior member

    Messages:
    2,004
    Likes Received:
    46
    Joined:
    Mar 9, 2008
    Location:
    Netherlands
    That sounds a bit antiquated or maybe conservative is a better word for my taste. To say that if you wear black shoes with light brown/khaki pants, or during the day for that matter means you're not serious about dressing well is just silly. And just because black shoes and khakis conjure up an image of GAP doesn't mean it's a bad thing. It can look a bit more modern and less suburban dad if that's what you want. Not to say brown shoes and khakis are suburban dad. Too many other factors dictate that.
    +1

    I can't understand the general dislike of black shoes. I like them and wear them often... though I confess I wouldn't personally do so with khakis. It's not wrong, but not my personal taste either.
     
  6. amiestilo

    amiestilo Active Member

    Messages:
    31
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2008
    I'm surprised this thread supports black shoes and light brown cotton pants here on this dandy forum. Why would anyone wear black shoes in the day time unless he had to wear black shoes in the daytime? Once a year, for a change of pace, maybe, but otherwise forego black if you are serious about dressing well.

    Interesting way to state your opinion, sir. I think there is a strong arguement here for buying more brown or "non-black" shoes, but to forego black completely during the day, lest you be labled not be serious about dressing well, is going a bit far, IMO. Unless of course you meant black with khakis specifically.

    I think depending on the shade of khakis (darker) and style of shoe (cap toe or the like), this combination can be achieved successfully, even during the daytime. But to each his own.
     
  7. johnapril

    johnapril Senior member

    Messages:
    5,663
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2004
    Black leathers tend to be of inferior quality compared to brown and light brown leathers. That's why they dye them black.


    Give me a break. Give me one.
     
  8. Kuro

    Kuro Senior member

    Messages:
    2,535
    Likes Received:
    136
    Joined:
    Sep 3, 2007
    Give me a break. Give me one.

    [​IMG] Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous...
     
  9. vitaminc

    vitaminc Senior member

    Messages:
    2,407
    Likes Received:
    3
    Joined:
    Mar 23, 2008
    Location:
    Silicon Valley, CA
    This seems OK to me. I mean, 99% of guys would do that outfit with block front shoes. The color doesn't put me off.

    IMO the black belt is a bit too heavy with that look; notice how the black belt strikes out in the whole outfit? He could probably gain a few inches with a skinner black belt. But the whole outfit is looking nice regardless.
     
  10. Dewey

    Dewey Senior member

    Messages:
    3,485
    Likes Received:
    27
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    What percentage of the world's best shoes are black? Guess an answer and then read this thread: http://styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=14906 Note the ratio of browns to black. If you are in the habit of wearing good shoes, you are in the habit of wearing brown shoes; if you are in the habit of wearing brown shoes, you will probably wear them, 9 times out of 10, in the daytime with your khaki trousers. That's my thought. Take it or leave it as you please.
     
  11. johnapril

    johnapril Senior member

    Messages:
    5,663
    Likes Received:
    6
    Joined:
    Sep 28, 2004
    What percentage of the world's best shoes are black? Guess an answer and then read this thread:

    http://styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=14906

    Note the ratio of browns to black.

    If you are in the habit of wearing good shoes, you are in the habit of wearing brown shoes; if you are in the habit of wearing brown shoes, you will probably wear them, 9 times out of 10, in the daytime with your khaki trousers. That's my thought. Take it or leave it as you please.


    What are you, from that other forum?
     
  12. Dewey

    Dewey Senior member

    Messages:
    3,485
    Likes Received:
    27
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    [​IMG] Yeah, that is pretty ridiculous...

    Glad you liked it. I live for the laughs

    What are you, from that other forum?

    There's another forum? [​IMG] Are we in Streetwear?

    Go crazy all you black shoe wearing people. Good black shoes are good shoes, no reason you can't wear them all you want.
     
  13. alliswell

    alliswell Senior member

    Messages:
    3,992
    Likes Received:
    15
    Joined:
    Jul 8, 2007
    This was posted yesterday by a forum member. To me this is too dressy a shoe for khakis. I agree that it should be an informal shoe ie. loafer, driving moc. It is a beautiful shoe though.
    [​IMG]


    Poster needs to put his coat and tie on before being photographed in public. He'd look much better fully dressed.
     
  14. brlfvr

    brlfvr Senior member

    Messages:
    814
    Likes Received:
    0
    Joined:
    Feb 4, 2008
    What percentage of the world's best shoes are black? Guess an answer and then read this thread:

    http://styleforum.net/showthread.php?t=14906

    Note the ratio of browns to black.

    If you are in the habit of wearing good shoes, you are in the habit of wearing brown shoes; if you are in the habit of wearing brown shoes, you will probably wear them, 9 times out of 10, in the daytime with your khaki trousers. That's my thought. Take it or leave it as you please.


    I'm sorry sir it all comes off a bit arrogant. Now you are equating the quality of a shoe with dressing well. I guess I'm addressing it more from an aesthetic response. As is said a great quality suit that doesn't fit well or is poorly put together doesn't mean you are dressing well. You can wear a decently made shoe and still be well dressed. People usaully have a bigger problem with fit and how to put things together. Knowing they are wearing expensive items doesn't = being well dressed IMO. The original question was to whether black shoes can be worn with khakis. Not ratio of browns to black therefore making those who wear brown shoes better dressed individuals.
     
  15. Dewey

    Dewey Senior member

    Messages:
    3,485
    Likes Received:
    27
    Joined:
    Jul 19, 2007
    I'm sorry sir it all comes off a bit arrogant. Now you are equating the quality of a shoe with dressing well. I guess I'm addressing it more from an aesthetic response. As is said a great quality suit that doesn't fit well or is poorly put together doesn't mean you are dressing well. You can wear a decently made shoe and still be well dressed. People usaully have a bigger problem with fit and how to put things together. Knowing they are wearing expensive items doesn't = being well dressed IMO. The original question was to whether black shoes can be worn with khakis. Not ratio of browns to black therefore making those who wear brown shoes better dressed individuals.
    I'm sorry but this comes off as very sensitive. I am not here to cause offense or to put down anyone. And I'm not equating better dressed with affluence or superior virtue. But I do think that it's true that most of the people who really devote themselves to shoes find that brown shoes are more aesthetically rewarding. I feel like I am arguing in favor of microbrews with a big fan of Budweiser. And the fan of Budweiser is arguing that Budweiser tastes just as good as all microbrews, for some people, and that I am some kind of elitist jagoff for suggesting that Budweiser is not the equal of my fancy expensive beers. Or that I am suggesting that a man with a Budweiser in his hand can never be regarded as a well-beered man. Black has its purposes. But aesthetically, it is just not as good, in the opinion, I have observed, of most shoe lovers. And in my own opinion. Perhaps my observation is wrong. Perhaps the great dandies of the day adore black shoes, wear them every chance, and perhaps I have been drinking too much beer. It is on you to go forth and explore this question. I can not persuade you further, it is clear. But I say it is a fact that brown leathers have much more depth and variety and character than black leathers, and that these things are aesthetically pleasing, especially in the daylight, and especially when paired with light-colored clothing. To choose black when the circumstances are very good for brown is, in my opinion, to choose Budweiser when there are much tastier options available.
     

Share This Page

Styleforum is proudly sponsored by