Official Wedding Attire Question/Answer/Picture Thread

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  1. ShawnBC

    ShawnBC Senior member

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    Hi gents,

    Starting to research the outfit I'll wear to my wedding this coming July. Tuxedo and shirt are already chosen, or pretty much. But I need your inputs on a couple of other things.

    Shoes: I'm currently trying to decide what shoes to wear. Black, plain toe, something formal but I don't want them to be patent leather because I want to be able to wear them outside of black tie events. I'm currently debating between Meermin black wholecuts and Kent Wang plain toe balmorals. I'm trying not to spend more than 400$ on the shoes. Which would you choose between the 2, or if you have any other ideas, don't hesitate!

    Cummerbund: Yeah or nay? I like them, and I especially don't want to show some shirt under the jacket buttons if the trousers are too low waisted. If I chose to wear a cummerbund, can I still wear braces? Or both of them together would look ridiculous if I took off my jacket during the evening? Kent Wang has a nice one, but I'm wondering if there are some cheaper or budget-friendlier options.

    Braces: What color? Initially I was going to go with white, but since my tux shirt will be ivory in color, won't white braces clash against the ivory shirt? Could black braces work? Or is there any other color permitted in black tie attire? What about the brand? I would like not to spend the dough on some Thurston, but still, I would like to have some decent quality.

    I'd like to wear a thick, diamond-shaped bow tie, in black satin. Suit Supply has a decent one, Kent Wang as well. I know Sam Hober could also make me one, MTM. Any other suggestions?

    Thank you guys, if I have any other questions, I'll come around and ask!
     


  2. MrDaniels

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    I think the waist needs a covering, but I prefer a vest to a cummerbund.
     


  3. ShawnBC

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    Wish I could wear a vest, but for 2 reasons, it is not a possibility for me in the present time, because:

    #1: I'm a big sweater, and just the fact of adding a layer, especially as I'm getting married in July (we're looking for possibly 30°C+) seems counterintuitive to me. I'll be soaking-wet just standing still, and that's even before I've started dancing.

    #2: the tux I'm considering (Suit Supply black peak lapel) doesn't come with a vest. I figure I could have one made in a complementary but different fabric, but I'm not really looking forward to it.

    Thanks for your input though MrDaniels!
     


  4. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    I'd just wear white braces and not worry about the ivory shirt issue. If somebody worries that it clashes when you're dancing sans jacket late on your wedding night they can go diddle themselves. Besides the fact that it will look fine anyway.

    For the bowtie/cummerbund, what material are your lapel facings? Peak lapel?
     


  5. random-adam

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    Shoes: Those options are both elegant. If you're like me and foot width is a major concern, you might consider Allen Edmonds Carlyle black plaintoes as well (in B, D, E, or EEE; if you check out the AE MTO thread you'll see they can make 'em for you with a dainite sole if needed). Silk laces are a nice splurge.

    Cummerbund: If no waistcoat, then cummerbund. Here's another vote.

    Braces: Nothing wrong with black. I found some no-name black silk suspenders (with braided silk tabs, not stamped leather tabs) on eBay a couple years ago for twenty three bucks shipped and they've served well. It's not a big deal, but try to match metals between suspender hardware and studs/cufflinks.

    Bow tie might hinge a bit on the shirt collar. I've got a wing collar shirt with which I wear a fitted -- that is, not adjustable -- bow tie; when it's all on display, zero metal hardware is very appealing. Hober does that. It's a nice touch.
     


  6. ShawnBC

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    unbelragazzo, the tux I intend to buy is the Suit Supply peak lapel tux. The lapel facings are silk. That is, if the suit fits me well, otherwise I'll have to dig up and find another option (though SS option is hard to beat, for the price, styling and fabric used).

    http://us.suitsupply.com/en_CA/suit...t&prefv2=Evening-Smoking&prefv1=Spring/Summer
     


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    I considered wearing a wingtip collar shirt but then, I decided to go with a laydown collar (classic medium spread). My opinion is that while wingtip collars really fit in the black tie attire, I favor them with white tie. Plus, with a laydown collar, I don't have to worry about buying a no adjustor bow tie, because the adjuster hardware will be hidden.

    Thanks a lot for your input random-adam!
     
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    I meant are they grosgrain or satin...it looks like they're satin from the pic.
     


  9. ImTheGroom

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    Cumberbund for sure. Black or white braces are fine. I'd favour a white shirt over ivory. Is the ivory shirt to match your bride's dress, or just a personal preference?
     


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    Quote: My wife-to-be gives me total control over my tux for our wedding. The only thing that she asks is for me to wear an ivory shirt because her wedding dress is an off-white/eggshell color and it's supposed to look dirty yellow should I wear a crisp white shirt next to her. At first I hesitated and showed her photos to prove her wrong, but then I realized, this is her day, she's the one who's supposed to shine on the altar, so I'm not going to steal her show. If she wants me to wear an ivory shirt, I'll happily comply, even though I think a white bib front shirt would've looked better.
     
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    This myth is very pervasive among brides. I find it somewhat vexing, as an ivory shirt is incorrect with a Tuxedo. I would only argue that it is your day, as well as hers, and that the very nature of men's diurnal wear, evening wear especially, is designed to be a back drop fit the ladies' attire. Anyway, sounds like you're making an informed decision, and consideration, and compromise are certainly gentlemanly traits, so carry on.
     


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    I hear you, and I certainly think the same way. However, you and I both know that we, men, need to decide which battle we choose to fight and this is one I'm not willing to carry on! But thanks, at least for my sanity, I now know I'm not the only one annoyed by this so-called "fact". [​IMG]
     


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    I don't think ivory is incorrect...cream silk in particular is elegant, if somewhat uncommon. For instance, Budd lists this in the "dress shirt" section:

    http://www.buddshirts.co.uk/cream-silk-dress-shirt.html

    and styles it in the pic with a black bow tie, even though it has buttons and no dress front. But they will make it up with those things for bespoke orders obviously. Also, Emma Willis:

    http://www.emmawillis.com/collectio...-silk-pique-shirt/products_id/200/cPath/15_48

    Both these stores, Budd in particular, are fairly traditional, so mostly sticking to "the rules" of black tie.
     


  14. ImTheGroom

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    Silk shirts, I believe, are an exception, because they would have to be harshly bleached, to be white. An ivory, or off-white, cotton shirt would not be correct, from everything I've seen, and read.
     


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    unbelragazzo Jewfro Dubiously Honored

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    That may be true. All the more reason for our friend to get a silk shirt if he can (I realize the ones I linked are quite expensive, but perhaps you could hunt around eBay and hope to get lucky).
     


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