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Official Wedding Attire Question/Answer/Picture Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by unbelragazzo, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. Newcomer

    Newcomer Senior member

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    Tie 3 and 5 were acceptable, looking back.

    As for the fit of your morning coat... Hmmm. That may be a bit trickier. The first thing I would do is to get the waist nipped. Not too much, but just enough that the buttoning point does not seem to be burgeoning outward. Trousers are also a bit of a mess. But that is fairly simple to take care of. One thing I would work on is more 'contiguity' when it comes to the weight of the fabrics. How thick is the coat?
     
  2. ImTheGroom

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    The pants are unhemmed, because I don't have shoes yet. The pants are summer weight, and the coat is heavy worsted wool. The pants are a done deal, though; not changing them, unless I find something I like better.

    For the waist on the coat, I wonder whether altering the waist will change that apperance - it's a link closure, and the shank on the linking button is about 2" long. Might do; though. Anyone have experience on this?
     
  3. Newcomer

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    Hmm, yeah, that is one thing I was wondering in re weight. If you can, try to make your weights a bit more consistent so that your look is more harmonious. For example, I think that you will be able to get away with a heavier jacket if you also have a heavier shirt and tie. I would also suggest black balmoral boots. That is integral in my opinion. It will help to offset the summery feel of the pants. It is also very appropriate for the occasion. What color is the jacket?

    And if it is a link closure, then that coat definitely needs to be taken in. I am sure a good tailor can do some 'surgery.' I know that they can mess with the quarters to an extent. That is far outside my realm of expertise, however.

    With all this said, remember that at the end of the day all my suggestions are meant to make it 'perfect.' I know that my ensemble will not be up to my standards :).
     
  4. culverwood

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    On the shirt front the most recent shirt i have from Sean O'Flynn for morning dress has a is in a fine blue stripe so from a distance looks blue and has a contrasting white collar but cuffs made from the striped material.

    I would go for a little colour in your tie which one is best left to you to decide based on your skin and hair colour.

    I would not recommend altering the coat unless you are confident the tailor knows exactly what he is doing, morning coats are not made the same way as lounge coats. Perhaps change the buttoning to a normal button style or shortening the link if the link gives too much space but no more.
     
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  5. quaker13

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    My buddy from college and his groomsmen

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  6. Newcomer

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    Ay carumba. You would think it is impossible to dress properly for a wedding now-a-days.
     
  7. Rumpelstiltskin

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    There can't be one and only one way to dress for a wedding. It's their wedding therefore their choice.
     
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  8. culverwood

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    Cool
     
  9. Newcomer

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    You are correct. It is their wedding, and it is their choice. That does not mean it is the right choice, however. There are multiple ways to dress for a wedding depending upon the formality of that wedding. There are also 'permissive' deviations from the standard. However, when one posts on SF, I think that for the sake of posterity, it might be illustrative to mention what is wrong with a particular 'get up' and how they could change their get up to keep it more in line with tradition. Marriage is by its very nature traditional. There are aspects of marriage that cannot be waived. You cannot tailor marriage to your individualized wants and needs. In the same vein, I believe it is best to remain within a set of lines when it comes to dress in order to adhere to tradition.

    That is just my perspective.

    Why, you may ask? So that your wedding pictures do not look like this further down the line:

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  10. archibaldleach

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    Yes, it is their wedding and their choice. From a CM perspective, however, there are more and less correct ways of doing things and there are basic principles on how to dress that are being flagrantly violated. Wedding photos last a very long time and much longer than one might think some fashion statement is interesting or cool.
     
  11. pinkformen

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    Hello,

    I've been reading up in the links in this thread as well as others and I've been working out my options.

    I have a wedding coming up in two weeks - Dress code "Cocktail Attire" and the ceremony starts before dark at 6PM local time.

    My options are:

    1) buy a new suit

    2) get one of my suits from a year and a half ago adjusted (glued... yes I know ewww... I bought it before I had a decent income)

    I am leaning towards the latter since I haven't worn a suit since my job interview a year and a half ago and so that I can purchase new shoes, shirt and tie as well.

    They are both peak lapel two button double vented. 42R (1/8th of an inch tight on the shoulders but not the end of the world)

    Suit #1 is Navy blue with light blue (almost whitish) pinstripes.

    Suit #2 is Black with very faint charcoal/black pinstripes

    From what I understand neither of the suits are ideal but I'd rather pocket the 700-1500$ (sales are on right now) for a new suit and put it in a savings account.

    Which suit should I go for? and any suggestions on shoes/shirt/tie would be welcomed.
     
  12. archibaldleach

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    Of those two suits, I would go with the navy. I do think that every man should have at least one solid navy or grey suit in their wardrobe for when they need it but that's ultimately up to you. For shoes, go for simple black stitch cap oxfords. Allen Edmonds Park Avenues are the most obvious example, though Alden and Crockett & Jones produce a version of this shoe if you are willing to spend a bit more. Brooks Brothers is decent for shirts, especially if you have one near you, given your short time frame. Their ties are okay but nothing special. I'd go with a wedding tie of some sort or perhaps a grey glen plaid. Shirt should be white.
     
  13. pinkformen

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    Thank you for the feedback!

    I could swing a charcoal Sumuelsohn suit, but I think I'd rather add it to my savings as I'm 23 and starting to build for the future.

    Are the AE Park Avenues a bit too conservative for a 23 year old young man? (they are also 355$ +15% tax which seems overpriced for AE?) I believe the wedding will likely be a touch fashion forward and I am generally a very "outgoing" person in terms of my daily wear style (bright colors, slim cuts, etc).

    Unfortunately in Montreal we have very limited selection in shoes/shirts etc. I would like to keep the shirt not too expensive as I will likely have to get it tailored due to my body shape (I have a 42-44 shoulder with a 33 waist). This is really on the high end of what I would like to spend http://www.harryrosen.com/eng/produ...ess-shirts/martini_solid_dress_shirt?11210374

    So a white shirt and a grey tie it is :) I think It should look fairly sleek. I was originally thinking green shirt (fade from light to dark) with light grey tie (bad idea looking at it now)
     
  14. archibaldleach

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    The AE Park Avenue is a conservative shoe and it's certainly not sleek. The problem is that black stitch cap oxfords really are the proper shoe to wear with a suit. I'd keep the shoes conservative and well shined; a slim cut suit will be sufficient for what you want. The tax is a bit more than in the U.S. but $355 is not a terrible price unless you are buying on sale or getting AE seconds.

    You can get a decent dress shirt for far less than the example you cited. If you're getting it tailored anyway, even the full retail price of $88 or so for a Brooks Brothers shirt should be pretty doable. Just make sure you get a fit that looks good on you in the shoulders / chest. You can at least partly fix the rest.
     
  15. pnin22

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    Question about ivory tux shirts: My wife's wedding gown will be off-white (ivory), and I have been told that the groom should wear an ivory shirt to match. We are doing all black tie for groomsmen. So, should the groom's shirt be ivory? What about the groomsmen?
     
  16. msulinski

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    Go with white. That is the proper color to wear with black tie. Most shirt makers don't make a non-white formal shirt anyway.
     
  17. archibaldleach

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    White shirts should be worn with black tie. No exceptions. The elegance of the outfit is a result of the high contrast between black and white which would be reduced and somewhat washed out by wearing an ivory shirt. In general matching one's date / bride is not a good idea, especially not with the shirt that you're wearing.
     
  18. RogerC

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    I agree on the fact that matching is a bad idea. However, cream dress shirts have always been correct (and sometimes even more upper-class) than white dress shirts. You should get a decent one though, and that might be difficult.

    On sleek Oxfords, try Septieme Largeur's 198 last. Not too expensive either. In a pinch, you could go for their other brand, Markowski, which is even cheaper.
     
  19. ImTheGroom

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    I was told the same thing. You're a different person, so it's not going to look weird for you to wear a different colour. Do not wear an ivory shirt, especially since you said you are doing black tie. Black tie is quite different from the commonly seen wedding tuxedo. Have you read www.BlackTieGuide.com? If not, start there. It's a wealth of information.
     
  20. ImTheGroom

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    Also try John Fluevog Shoes.
     

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