Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by unbelragazzo, Dec 31, 2012.
Excellent. Thanks, RogerC.
Yeah, sometimes Cego (Carl) will do a single shirt if its for a wedding. He did for me. Highly recommended.
Can somebody give me an indication of which of these two would be more appropriate to wear with black tie? On model 101273 (the top link) the toebox and uppers are pulled over the stitching to conceal it, which is not the case with model 101198 (the second link) as seen below. I tried posting images but even at a large setting it was difficult to see the detail I'm describing.
I actually think it's a somewhat elegant detail but that's to my noob eye. Thoughts?
I can't really see in the pics bc I'm on my phone but I think I know the detail you are describing. Personally I prefer the visible stitching. Other looks somehow prophylactic.
Both designs are lovely but not ideal for black tie. For black tie, you should go with a plain toe balmoral (no stitching or punch caps).
Cannot. . . unsee. . .
Well, you both bring up good points. May very well need to look at the Kent Wang's again.
I am really new here and I have a lot to learn. I stupidly posted this in a new thread and was directed here.
I'm getting married in the fall and I have instructed the groomsman to wear black-tie dress with a few requirements (like only a black bow tie, black cummerbund/waist coat). I am being told by numerous individuals (and I read in some guides) that, as the groom, I should be differentiated from the rest of the groomsmen (i.e., that I should stand out from the group).
My question is, what can I do (if I even need to), to stand out, without destroying the black-tie ensemble. It seems to me that black-tie by nature allows for little variation. I suppose I could go white tie but I would rather not. Instead, I would like to purchase a high quality, traditional tux that I can use in the future. Not sure if it matters, but the wedding ceremony will be in a NYC church.
Any ideas, input, from this community would be much appreciated. The early response is that I should stick with traditional black tie.
Thanks in advance!
You do not need to be differentiated. No one is going to mistake you for anyone other than the groom.
If you really want to, get a boutonniere, or one of a different color than the groomsmen. But don't go screwing with the black-tie basics and wear a colored cummerbund or something--that's insta-fail.
There are some ways to stand apart, without ruining black tie. You could ask your groomsmen to wear cummerbunds, while you wear a waistcoat, or vice versa. You could add a boutonniere, or add a pocket square for a splash of colour. You could also wear a homburg - it would be under your arm in the church, of course, not on your head. www.blacktieguide.com is a good resource, and includes pages on where you can add some individuality to your ensemble.
Vodwat, stick with traditional black tie. There is no need as the groom to differentiate yourself because everyone will know you're the groom. Acceptable variations on black tie largely center around the jacket (SB peak lapel, SB shawl lapel, DB peak lapel, DB shawl lapel OR midnight blue / black), cufflinks / studs used, patent oxfords vs. opera pumps, wing vs. turndown collar for a peak lapel tuxedo, pleat front vs. marcella front shirt. You could wear something differentiated, but (1) it looks odd to have everyone wear the same thing except the groom IMO and (2) if everyone is wearing their own tuxedo, there's going to be some variation so you'll just appear to be wearing one version of black tie among many.
If you want to differentiate, think about the waistcoats: cummerbunds for the rest, waistcoat for you, or black waistcoats for the rest, white marcella for you.
Give all of them a uniform boutonniere, and then get a unique on for yourself.
Be the only one with a slick, white pocket square.
Be the only one with a vest.
And an echo of what Roger posted, as another alternative.
Awesome suggestions guys....just for clarity, when you say slick white pocket square, do you mean high quality, or what exactly makes it slick?
Oh...just nice quality and placed in a stylish way....
Separate names with a comma.