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Official Wedding Attire Question/Answer/Picture Thread

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by unbelragazzo, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    We all have had to battle the numerous n00b wedding attire questions in the past. But if you're new to this, the wedding thread always goes something like this:

    1) noob asks where to rent clothing for himself or groomsmen or which outfit he should force all his groomsmen to wear

    2) SF members tell him how silly the identical rented outfits look, encourage him to let people wear their own clothes

    3) groom says no, impossible, his fiancée is set on the matching light gray four button rented tuxedos with fuchsia tie and pocket square sets that match bridesmaid dresses

    4) SF members question groom's manhood, ask sarcastically if he is choosing what bride and bridesmaids wear.

    5) OP either leaves thread angrily or calls off wedding, starts saving for Rubinacci evening wear and ridiculing n00bs that post asking where to rent a tux for their groomsmen.

    StyleForum 101 has helped:

    http://www.styleforum.net/a/what-should-i-ask-my-groomsmen-to-wear

    And should be considered required reading for posting in this thread. But I still think it would be useful to have a centralized thread so as not to rehash the same points over and over again. Please:

    1) post any pictures of grooms or groomsmen looking great, or terrible if you think it's instructive. Also welcome is any historical info or insight regarding when the monster of matching wedding attire was spawned, and the glory that reigned before it. I will try to update the OP as valuable information arrives so that it, along with the SF101 article, will remain a reasonable substitute for reading the entire thread.

    2) Redirect any n00bs starting their own threads about wedding attire to this thread as quickly as possible.

    With any luck, we can help out future grooms and groomsmen with as little pain and suffering on all sides as possible.

    Other approved links:

    http://putthison.com/post/334425916/weddingattireformen

    http://www.styleforum.net/a/the-basics-of-wedding-attire

    http://www.blacktieguide.com/Supplemental/Weddings.htm

    http://www.styleforum.net/t/62219/wedding-ties
     
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  2. Inker19

    Inker19 Well-Known Member

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    I'm engaged and even though the wedding won't be for at least a couple of years, the subject of wedding attire has already come up.

    My fiancee does not like traditional wedding dresses (neither do I), and has her heart set on a medieval-looking green and black dress. She asked me if they made suits that would match, and I told her olive green suits are generally accepted. It took a while, but I managed to find one that fits pretty well and would require only minimal alterations to make it SF-approved.

    I went along with the idea because I dislike the tuxedo ensemble. I have a shawl lapel tuxedo jacket with matching plain black pants (no stripe down the sides) that I do like, but I hate those special pleated wing collar shirts, cummerbunds, and I totally hate bowties.
     
  3. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    I've seen very few olive green suits that I really like and a lot that I think look kind of cheesy. Even the ones I like I don't think I'd consider wearing to a wedding unless required by the bride or groom. If the wedding is at night, which it sounds like it might be if a tuxedo is an option. I'd especially avoid olive. A nice rich navy would be much better. Or better still, a midnight blue navy DJ in velvet. Wear a turndown collar and an evening waistcoat to overcome your first two phobias, and just get over it and wear a bowtie. Your black pants should be fine with the midnight velvet.
     
  4. Inker19

    Inker19 Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, no way anyone's gonna talk me into wearing a full tuxedo. I don't like them and my fiancee doesn't like them, so why I should I "just get over it" because that's what everyone else wears?
     
  5. ZirconiumZephyr

    ZirconiumZephyr Well-Known Member

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    Well I think the more important point is that you really needn't wear something that matches the bride. It's an odd but commonly held view that outfits should "match". Just let them complement each other. Perhaps a nice brown suit?

    That being said, a black or blue is going to look better at night.
     
  6. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    My point is, even if you don't want to wear a traditionally styled black tie rig, you can do a lot better than an olive suit.
     
  7. Victor Elfo

    Victor Elfo Well-Known Member

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    I'm not sure if velvet would be a good cloth for a wedding attire, it's more fashionable and the objective of a wedding attire (for me at least) is to be something that transcends fashion and hence still being beautiful 50 years latter, neither is an olive cloth. In my opinion for the evening, stick with blue (deep navy or midnight), gray (charcoal or dark) or black.

    Maomao's second outfit for his wedding:
    [​IMG]


    The whole point of this thread is that only a few know how to properly dress for a wedding and hence dressing as everyone else is to dress badly. Thus your rant does not make any sense.
    Also, black tie is not the only viable wedding attire.
     
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  8. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    Velvet has a rich tradition in use for smoking jackets as well as waistcoats going back to at least d'Orsay. If you get it in a midnight then it's classy in a homey/loungey sort of way. Just avoid any reference to the pinks and baby blues of 70s velvet.
     
  9. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    Alsothabk you for quoting that (excellent) maomao pic. Threak needs moar pics.
     
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    But where would one even find a midnight velvet DJ? Just a straight midnight DJ is hard to find.
     
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  11. Victor Elfo

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    @unbelragazzo
    That's exactly my point, it has a casual connotation. Therefore donning it in a formal venue is to be fashionable, but I may be biased by my culture.

    Do welcome, I'll post one more from him, but I think that the tie should be darker.
    [​IMG]

    @DerHoggz

    Bespoke or MTM.
     
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  12. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    I think SuitSupply has one that might work.

    I agree it's more casual - whether it suits depends on the wedding and the setting. Given that an olive suit is under consideration, I don't think a velvet DJ would be too casual. It does lend a more festive and celebratory air, rather than officious and reverential.
     
  13. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    ^that maomao jacket must be liverano. Nobody else cuts quarters like that.
     
  14. aad752

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    Repost in the right spot.

    I'm recently engaged and decided I'm going to get a custom made suit. I think I will get it from Black Lapel because I just got a custom suit from them and it is fantastic, even my tailor was taken back on the quality. However, I can't determine if I should do shawl or peak lapels. I really like the look of Tom Ford tuxedos (just not the price). What is more traditional for a groom to wear? Also, I plan on getting some nice shoes for the wedding, so any suggestions would be much appreciated. Thanks!
     
  15. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    Shawl is more casual - in the direction of the smoking jacket. More of an at home, or at the club, kind of feel. Peak is more formal. But neither is inappropriate. Wear whatever you feel best in. On footwear, are you stylish enough to wear opera pumps?
     
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    Typical UK groomsmen some owned some rented.

    [​IMG]
     
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  17. aravenel

    aravenel Well-Known Member

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    This is a great idea for a thread, Unbel. Thanks for taking the lead.

    Trick will be in making sure the gazillion wedding threads are all re-routed here...
     
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  18. Victor Elfo

    Victor Elfo Well-Known Member

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    Everyone needs to be donning the same garments, in terms of formality? Some will want to get married in black tie, but most of the guests will not own or be willing to buy such garments and hence there is the horrible solution of renting. Thus requiring lounge suits for the guests would be a greater good.
    What do you think of it?



    Quote: Do you mean open like that? And I usually identify a Liverano jacket by the convex shoulder line.
     
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  19. unbelragazzo

    unbelragazzo Well-Known Member

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    ^ yep open like that. But I'm interviewing Liverano himself in a couple of hours so I'll have more info soon!

    On the other question, I think black tie optional is fine. Wedding party can then wear black tie, guests may or can wear their best dark suit if they don't have evening clothes.

    @aravenel - thank you! The key is for all of you to help me in sending people here. Once we gather steam it'll be a top google/sf search hit and we won't have to do as much of that. Also if we keep it going I'll link to it in the SF101 on weddings, which will help
     
  20. Jester87

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    I'm getting married this August, and our wedding is going to be small. I know that the idea isn't to have the groomsmen match, but with a total of only three groomsmen I think it could look silly if I don't give them instructions. My thoughts are to instruct them to wear a navy suit. I'm going to go with a three piece navy suit with white linnen pocket square.

    Keep in mind that two of the three groomsmen don't even own a suit, and I'm making them buy one.

    Thoughts?
     

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