Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Feb 4, 2014.
My trailer feeling, excited but then turned to eh.
They're making it too comedic? That's one of the annoying things I hated on Thor 2 and IM3, too many jokes and one-liners.
I mean we really didn't see much, was cool for a first trailer I guess.
Will still watch at midnight though but I hope they tone down the comedy a bit.
TBH still no idea how this merits a movie before F4 was properly resurrected.
- Agree with RFX that the "comedy" is a little much but hopefully that's just for the trailer but at the end of the day, this is a film with a raccoon, giant tree, and Chris Pratt. Keeping it light-hearted seems like the most sound approach.
- John C. Reilly is the last person I thought I'd see in a film like this. I can't tell if that's stunt casting gone wrong or what. I half-expected Will Ferrell to pop up....wtf....
- Everything else looks promising. The soundtrack is
I liked the jokes and one liners. They do a good job of separating this film from the pack. Otherwise the general public might think it's another John Conner of Mars or Green Lantern. Gave the trailer a nice unique feel and vibe. I'm sure the whole film won't be like that.
@El Argentino Marvel would love to reboot the FF4 and bring the property into their fold. They can't. The rights are still in Fox's hands. One reason lesser known properties like GotG are being given a chance to shine is because Marvel has to work with what they still have available.
Honestly this looks great fun. The early buzz has been strong too. Marvel could have another winner on their hands.
Its definitely not just Marvel working with what they got. There are bigger and more in demand characters in their vault that people have been waiting for, Black Panther, Inhumans, another Hulk movie plus they already got the rights back for Blade, GR and Daredevil but instead they are going the cheaper route by making Netflix shows for the Defenders.
GotG is Marvels biggest risk yet and it is their way of introducing ever more obscure characters to the public. Marvel is still desperate to expand their universe and this is their first step.
Plus with Marvel/Disney owning all these properties plus the tv shows and then acquiring Star Wars for billions of dollars, their plate is pretty damn full. Not to mention that Marvel still get a small percentage of profits from the other properties they rented out so they make money without investing any on Xmen, F4 and Spiderman films. Marvel actually gave more movie rights to Sony in exchange of merchandising distributions because Marvel/Disney knows thats where they can make bank without putting too much money out there.
Ahh Daredevil. *shudder*
Such a great character ruined by that film in 03
Didn't they just get Daredevil back? GotG was in production well before they knew they would have it right?
As for Hulk, Marvel feels he works better in team films then alone. I'm not sure I agree with that, but it is their stance.
Black Panther does need to happen.
Plate full and revenue sharing or not, I think you are nuts if you honestly think Marvel wouldn't love to get some of their major properties back in house. XMen and Spider-Man? In their own cinematic universe with Wolverine showing up in a future Avengers film like in the comics? Parker too? Marvel and Disney would kill for that right now.
I am sure they'd love to get them but look at all the properties Marvel has and they can still only confure up 2 movies a year and the rest (Luke Cage, DD, Iron FIst) are going to Netflix instead. Hell they were struggling coming up with a release date for Star Wars that doesn't conflict and take market away from the other Marvel films so imagine a 3rd Marvel film in the same year? Along with their other big budget properties like Pixar films and Pirates franchise? Their plate is full and overflowing as it is.
I see it like this as Marvel/Disneys point of view, instead of XMen, SM and F4 sitting in their vault waiting to be made, they are making millions from Sony and Fox without putting out money.
It's a waste to simply get the Wolverine property for a simple cameo in Avengers 4. I still see the biggest drawback of Wolverine as it not being Rated R and if Marvel/Disney gets it, I am sure they can make a better film than Fox but it would still feel kiddy so it'll still likely not make IM money anyways.
Look, it's every comic book fans fantasy to see all these heroes go against Thanos or Glactus, it really is, it'll make every fanboy jizz right on their monitor from the announcement alone, the interwebz would explode. But really, A3 is already shaping up to have all these guys:
Villains included so far:
Baron Von Strucker
Thanos (behind the scenes)
That doesn't even include GotG that could still be in the film (they are formed to go against Thanos):
And the Defenders from the Netflix shows:
Plus the Phase 3 heroes, which they might have to send away or kill off one of the major members to make room for:
And you want to add XMen, F4 and Spiderman to that? I have faith in Whedon but damn that'll be one hell of a task for a 2 hour film.
And again, I would love, absolutely LOVE to see that but you aren't looking past your fanboyism (not an insult, I have this problem too) if you can't see that it is just too much. This year, Marvel will get money from Cap, GotG, XMen DoFP and ASM2, if those other properties are in Marvels hand they'll only have two of those out.
Keep in mind that both Fox and Sony are expanding those worlds too so Marvel will bank on them. Fox plans to make XForce film with Deadpool and they already announced Apocalypse after DoFP. Sony already has SM3 & SM4 in the books and a solo Venom and Sinister6 films. That is a lot of things to do that Marvel will not be able to handle at once. To me, even if it isn't the best product, I still rather see them made and developed now and come out every other year than being released 4-5 years apart.
By the way, Phase 3 has been confirmed:
would suck though if like 5 years from now, and chris evans, chris hemsworth, rdj, scarlett johansson, et al opt not to renew their marvel contracts and we'll be stuck at maybe phase 4 with second stringer super heroes.
RDJ definitely going to be the first to bite it , what with his high salary
Yeah it's almost inevitable but they'll just recast instead of not using those characters. They already said Iron Man can be a James Bond format that it can keep going and going with a different actor w/o rebooting. I think they see every other parts the same way once those guys asks for too much money.
I hope they choose to keep the characters going without rebooting. After a while, they have to recognize that everyone knows the origin story. For example, is there anyone that needs yet another movie showing Peter Parker getting bitten by a spider and learning how to stick to walls? Yeah, I concede that there are few characters that have the same cultural ubiquity of Spiderman, but still...
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