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Official: Superhero, Comic Book, Sci-Fi, Fantasy, Horror, etc... FILM THREAD

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by RFX45, Feb 4, 2014.

  1. RFX45

    RFX45 Senior member

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    Yes that is exactly what happened, there were several clues in the film.

    They reported in the movie after Charles had a seizure in the casino that a similar event happened in Westchester (where the school was located).

    Then before X24 killed ProfX, he said he remembered what happened in Westchester.

    In the beginning, Pierce also mentioned the Professor as a weapon of mass destruction and that is was a shame what happened back East.

    So the event wasn't exactly in your face and had to be pieced together.
     
  2. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Just saw Logan. That was, far and away the best CBM I have seen. And better acting than a CBM has a right to.
     
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    venividivicibj Senior member

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    watched it with my dad and had a disagreement

    at the end when wolverine says 'so, this is how it feels' is he referencing dying, or does he mean having a family/father daughter type of bond.
     
  4. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I am sure he meant the latter. Can't explain without spoiler tags.
     
  5. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    sometime you gotta learn how to do these man
     
  6. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Yes. But I couldn't from my phone.
    When he said that is what it feels like, it was a call back to the exact language Professor X used in the house, where he said that Logan should learn what it feels like to have a family. Logan felt Laura was family, just as he died.
     
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    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Absolutely loved Logan. Movie had no right to be so good. Easily in the top 5 CBM of all time. Up there with The Dark Knight, The Winter Soldier and Unbreakable.

    The girl who played X-23 was a revelation. One of my only concerns walking into the film was if audiences would be able able to take seriously a little girl in the types of fight scenes the movie would call for. She was perfect. Every moment with her worked and her ability express everything the audience needed to know with her expressions sold the performance.

    Jackman and Stewart brought their A games and delivered some of the best performances of their careers. I even liked the villain. He had a certain charm to his performance that played off well on screen.

    This is what Fox needs more of. Smart character driven films that don't try to lead up to the next big thing. Keep things smaller and more personal. Allow for films to be rated R when it's appropriate for the character and stories, but don't assume everything needs to be this way. Let each movie and character stand on their own and let directors do their own things.
     
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  8. RFX45

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    Jr liked it... he really liked it...


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  9. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It really is cute how you continue on with your bizarre notion that i'm some kind of Rambo clone who hates everything considering how many times i've been accused of the polar opposite by others. But whatever get you off. Carry on.
     
  10. dopey

    dopey Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I disagree. This is easily the best CBM movie to date that I have seen and I have no complaints. But after the glow wore off, I realized that the villain was a relative weak point.
    To be more precise, the Dr. was lame and uninteresting and the movie would have been no different if he was erased from every scene. Pearce was not terrible, but also not great. His creepy robot hand was underdeveloped and he didn't do all that much himself to warrant super-villain status. He mostly just ordered people around. But his scenery-chewing dialogue was a at least fun
     
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    noob in 89 Senior member

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    Related: Who misses IMDB? Even if you had no time for an immersive discussion, it was so nice just to be able to drop in and find a minor question answered, see what others were thinking, find connections to other films, or just get a simple confirmation that others had (or hadn't) noticed something you did...

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  12. RFX45

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    you are Rambo incarnate
     
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    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I was referring specifically to Pearce. It wasn't the most developed role ever, but the character was fun. The actor did well with what he had and I thought it worked. Really the film didn't have a true "super-villain" in the classic sense and that's fine for the type of film it was. Just a group of bad people with bad aims and a revealed history of doing horrible things.
     
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    to me those tow weren't the main villain(s) so i didn't mind their smaller parts and little effect on the film

    the true villain was X24, pretty much a younger and savage (berserk) version of himself

    it sounds cheesy when I say it but you can say his true villain has been himself all these time?

    so him fighting himself through the end is a nice touch

    would it have been cool if Sabertooth had been the final villain? sure but this one makes sense too


    if I were to really, really nitpick, it would have been nice if it was Logan himself that killed X24 though, even if he just goes ahead and decapitates him after X23 shoots him in the head
     
  15. venividivicibj

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    ? it's still there
     
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    They got rid of the discussion boards for nefarious, hotly-contested reasons.
     
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    That could have been a good movie, too, but wasn't the movie that was made.
    X-24 wasn't the villain he was just an inert tool that had no motives or character. That isn't a complaint as X-24 wasn't relevant to the story except as an obstacle to be beaten. At one point there was some dialog about the problem with the children was training them and that the next iteration, e.g., X-24 was better because they were made with no souls. I wouldn't be surprised if there are many more such scenes, and that they were cut because they were was ultimately not needed for the plot of this movie and this story. The fact that X-24 was basically a young Logan meant that we automatically knew that it was a better fighter than an old, dying Logan. But that was it
     
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    ME

    They should have at least archived all the discussions :censored:
     
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    Yes, I saw X-24 as simply a weapon. He reminded me a bit of the Terminator in the way he just kept coming no matter how much damage was done to him. I don't think he really required anymore depth then that and it worked well enough in the film.

    Having it be Draken or Sabertooth would have been a distraction. Both characters would have required a personality and or motive to make work. X-24 was a simple tool for the bad guys and nothing more.
     
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    I spent decades loving CBM and then the last 10 years happened and I grew to hate them. IM, Xmen, Avengers, all drove me crazy. Logan just brought me back. Finally, they add some length and gave it to character development or breathing room instead of another ridiculous CGI battle.

    Acting was great and kid was amazing. A few things I didn't like - evil DR that seemed to come from another movie, albino was too recognizable an actor, and bad guy(s) didn't do a hell of a lot - but those are minor quibbles to the overall picture.

    A couple of things I didn't get...

    After Logan took the drug it seemed that his claws came back for a scene, but then he was back to the metal claws. Was that just me?

    How does the kid grow with that skeleton?

    All those kids make it Eden, but not one guardian does?

    lefty
     

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