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Official: STAR WARS THREAD. These are the droids you're looking for. **WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Jr Mouse, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, it doesn't at all. What it does suggest is that if your investment is marketing it as a franchise and selling toys, that can be a crutch that leads you to tell tight story-telling under the bus. It may be a natural reaction, but not an inevitable one. There's no reason one couldn't approach the writing, directing, and editing of the current film as though it were supposed to stand alone as a narrative.

    Go read up on basic primers for writers, be it novelists, screenwriters, etc. Even if you're writing a television pilot, one of the most fundamental pieces of advice is to have the single-episode narrative hold together as a single viewing experience. Of course there's going to be other stuff that won't get revealed or fully developed until later episodes, but that shouldn't be a catch-all excuse for everything (one should always be suspicious of arguments that prove to much). That's a big difference between the experience of watching a well-crafted episodic narrative and, say, cheesy soap operas or Dynasty or Falcon Crest or whatever.
     
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    You could torrent Dildo Saggins and fast forward to the last 2 minutes
     
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    Obi-Wan's ghost was helping him with the force. Luke did not do that on his own.
     
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    How do you feel about Empire Strikes Back?
     
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    Obi-Wan's ghost spoke to Ray in her force vision. :)
     
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    I'm sure I liked it less than SW, but I'm not sure I've seen it since I was 12 years old. Aside from seeing some bastardized version of ROTJ on TV years ago, I don't think I've ever re-watched any of them other than the original and Spaceballs.
     
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    Also I must ask, but you saw this movie correct? Because I don't see how anyone could say it doesn't hold together as a single viewing experience. It told a complete story. The things many are complaining about is the stuff that isn't going to be revealed till one of the two future installments of this trilogy, which you admit is acceptable. So it sounds like we are in agreement.
     
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    You're missing out, man. Empire was great.
     
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    Well as I have pointed out a few times in this thread ESB is by and large the most beloved film in the Star Wars franchise and it ends on a cliffhanger. The movie is so good, that I have seen people add it to "best of" lists completely separate from the franchise as a whole. It's a masterfully crafted film yet leaves leaves a lot of open questions that needed to answered when it ends.
     
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    Well, you guys are doing a pretty good job of convincing me that I need to go back and watch it at some point Like I said, I'm not sure I've seen it since the original theatrical release.
     
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    The original movies make for a fun weekend of binge watching. Same with the original Indiana Jones movies.
     
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    There is a difference between a cliffhanger and something that doesn't make sense without further explanation in a future movie.
     
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    Did Leia being able to tap into the Force all of a sudden at the end of ESB make sense without finding out she was Luke's sister in ROTJ? Did the revelation that Vader was Luke's father make much sense either? Both had to be explained in the next film.
     
  15. dopey

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    JR. Can you give me simple, easy to follow directions on how to get the de-specialized editions. Preferably with short words.
    I have tried reading them on various websites, but I've got arthritis. Ain't nobody got time for that.
     
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    FWIW, Leia and Luke being sisters is hinted at with the exchange - "That boy is our last hope." "No, there is another."

    Which, now thinking about it, makes no sense in light of Obi-Wan being there present for the birth of the twins at the end of EpIII.
     
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    The link I posted has instructions. If you are still having problems I will send you a PM later with more direct links.
     
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    It sure would have been nice is Obi-Wan had warned look that kissing the princess he was trying to rescue might not be the best of ideas... :uhoh:
     
  19. dopey

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    Yes. Luke, who we know is powerful in the force called out to her. We didn't need to know anything else.

    Yes. It was explicit exposition. They told us.

    I TFA we know Rey is somehow force sensitive because of the musical cue in the fight scene at the end, but it is never explained, nor does the movie explain how, earlier, she just knew how to do Jedi mind tricks or use telekenesis to steal a lightsaber from another powerful force user.
     
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    Thanks.
     

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