Official: STAR WARS THREAD. These are the droids you're looking for. **WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

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  1. Harold falcon

    Harold falcon Senior member

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    The Hidden Fortress. Plus a half dozen other films.
     
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    otc Senior member

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    I dunno...I feel like if he hadn't intended for vader to be his father, he wouldn't have gone down the whole obi-wan "I knew your father" and the whole vader-obi-wan "now the student has become the master" road.

    Although perhaps it is more likely that Vader's last name wasn't originally supposed to be Skywalker.
     
  3. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The original last name of the hero was meant to be Starkiller.
     
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    So? The Hidden Fortress was made by a guy known for resetting Shakespeare in medieval Japan.

    And if you google the Hidden Fortress, it was apparently a quasi-remake of another of the guy's own movies, which was based on a play which was based on a poem which was (supposedly) based on a real life guy who lived 800 years ago.

    Everybody who's ever made a movie does the same stuff.
     
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    RFX45 Senior member

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    I actually meant in Star Wars because all that's been posted seems to be someone else's idea. Outside of JarJar I guess, no one would take credit for that. :lol:
     
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    Can you imagine the Star Trek fan who died right after seeing Star Trek into Darkness? What a way to go...
     
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    You know what would be fun? Let's turn this into another Led Zeppelin sucks because they just stole all their musical ideas while awesome bands like Cake and Metallica forged their music from the pure essence of original creativity!!!! thread. That would be totally awesome.
     
  8. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Fucking love CAKE. :D
     
  9. Harold falcon

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    Kurosawa never denied he was adapting Shakespeare. Lucas denied his theft for years. It's only when the internet got started, and you can see the fucking trench run stolen shot for shot from a B&W WWII movie that he had to admit it.
     
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    Nah, I was just recalling an instance when you pointed out that there are times when it's exactly the word you're looking for.
     
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    Everybody knows the Star Wars dogfights were based on WW2 movies (which were themselves based on real events!). The only thing I haven't heard is that anyone tried to hide it. Do you have a source?
     
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    ofc Star Wars is recycled ideas from ww2 dogfights, medieval knights, Buddhism, westerns to Dune and Kurosawa. It's all nicely blended. Most art is in some way influenced by previous creators. Why is this a problem suddenly?
     
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    If art is based on previous art, could we throw off Thrawn?
     
  14. Jr Mouse

    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    A huge amount of modern sci-fi has its roots in the work that was done in John Carpenter of Mars. The irony in seeing people accuse the recent movie based on the property of being a rip off of the Star Wars prequels was not insignificant.
     
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    There's influence and then there's just outright theft. Lucas is the latter. The man never had an original thought in that huge melon on top of his neck in his life.
     

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