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Official: STAR WARS THREAD. These are the droids you're looking for. **WARNING MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Jr Mouse, Oct 30, 2012.

  1. El Argentino

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    I like that the Uncanny Vally chart on that wiki-entry includes Zombies.
     
  2. acidboy

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    AND LAY OFF THE DAMN COKE!

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    Closest example is The Dude in the recent Tron movie. Even with all those shadows, it still wasn't quite there.

    It would work with a cartoon though. The CN Star Wars shows were pretty good fun.
     
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    Finished the Thrawn Trilogy, it was pretty awesome. Any more recs? I have limited experience (mostly just grabbing random things I find at libraries)
     
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    The subsequent Hand of Thrawn "duology" is pretty good too. Zahn essentially revisits Star Wars twenty years later.
     
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    Pretty sure that's a straight rip from the opening trailer played after installing SWTOR
     
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    Hamill was in an accident in 77 - broke his cheek and nose.
    I'm looking forward to these without Lucas.

    Hamill in 2010:

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  8. Neo_Version 7

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    'Star Wars': Are the original actors too old for a sequel?


    Good article on why bringing back these senior citizens would be kind of a bad idea.
     
  9. Cary Grant

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    "The notion that they are “too old” for a Star Wars film is completely absurd. One of the best characters in the franchise was the 1977 original film’s version of Obi-Wan Kenobi. He was played by 63-year-old Alec Guinness in a performance that earned him an Oscar nomination."


    He didn't just compare these three to one of the greatest thespains of all time...
     
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    Speaking of people being "too old," if you follow the prequels' chronology, wasn't Old Ben Kenobi only like 45 or so in Star Wars?
     
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    22-23 Obi-Wan in Ep.1
    32-33 in Ep.2
    34-35 in Ep.3
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    51-52 in Ep. 4

    A bit older, but sure.
     
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    Y'all seen Mark Hamill these days? Dude could be a stand-in for Darth Vader with the mask off.
     
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    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I honestly think that they will have small parts and non of this will matter.
     
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    Yeah, I'm sure if they are in it at all, it will be more like a cameo, something like them being the elder statesmen being consulted by the young whippersnappers who are driving the plot.

    And yeah, they all look old and busted, but I'm sure with some judicious makeup, lighting, and postprocessing, they can be made to look a good bit better.
     
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    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    So am I crazy for having a decent level of excitement here by now? I keep telling myself I am going to be disappointed, but somehow things keep showing me otherwise. As a fan who grew up with and lived Star Wars, I need these films to work.
     
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    yes
     
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    Jr Mouse Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    +1
     
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    +1 I'd imagine they'll be used in a way similar to Nimoy in the 2009 Star Trek. Yeah, makeup, postprocessing, etc can do a shit ton. Of course the recent pictures of the three of them look bad, they're not wearing makeup- lots of stars that are much younger than them look like absolute shit without makeup.
     
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    The difference is that in 1977, Alec Guiness' career was all but washed up. He had nothing to lose.
    It was a paycheck for him and he was wise to take the work. Also, no one had ever seen anything like Star Wars before.
    Everything was new and there was no expectations. This is why people were blown away.
    The technology shown in the first films were so outlandisly wild and advanced that even today it holds up.
    Today, with far more sophisticated and less forgiving audiences, there ARE expectations far beyond the original.
    Allow me to touch upon a few:
    1) The target audience today is 7-30, and we are talking about a generation that has no respect for anyone over 30.
    Tossing these seniors into the mix will be a risk unless the writing, directing and acting is nothing short of superb.
    2) What is there really left to desire?
    Han Solo would either be dead or retired.
    Luke never really did complete his traning because Obi-Wan and Yoda died leaving no one left to replace them.
    Vader is also dead as is the emperor.
    Luke's growth as a Jedi would have to be covered so there is a maybe...possibly by other jedi in hiding.
    Princess Leia was a princess with not much to preside over in the first place, and secondly, no offspring was eluded to for her, Luke, or Han.
    Lando probably lived out the remainder of his years getting laid.
    The Fett clan would be boring now if they were even allowed to live past their usefulness.

    To continue this series any further is diluting the good vs. evil messages from the original 3 films (chapters 4,5,6)
    So what is the point of making more?
    Seeing Han, Leia and Luke wearing diapers and walking with canes and drinking Boost?
    Seeing other Jedi who went into hiding when the empire rose? Even they would be very old or dead.
    And who will score it? Without John Williams to compose the music, it will never have the same feel.
    Do not underestimate the power of the musical scores importance.
    Who are they going to get to replace John? The man just turned 81 years of age.No one even comes close to his calibre.
    Can they commision him in time to provide a new catalogue in case he passes?
    I hope John lives another 40 years but he is Steven Spielbergs composer primarily.
    Would he even have the interest to participate, let alone the time?
    Face it, the story has been told. It ran its course. There is nothing left to tell.
    Disney has to develop the TV series depicting the dark years; the 4th Reich if you will, under the evil empire which lays between episodes 3 & 4 and even that will be diffiicult to achieve without becoming tiresome. I would give that series 3 seasons at best and they had better be VERY creative and not rest on the laurels of what was establised, but to create something new.
     
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