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I would hope the Moscow is heavy... it is packed with shearling and wool quilting. It’s not a light down/poly fill. It may be a “technical” fabric, but it’s not a technical/sporting coat. In fact, that’s the reason I just ordered one! I want heavy, substantial and something that is distinctly different than an Arc’teryx shell.
 

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think the guy is asking can I get warmth with less heft?
 

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I know that a technical shell with a down or Primaloft padding is way lighter. Just curious on how much the weight difference really is, that's all.
Just banal curiosity - I am not going to decide whether to buy it or not depending on whether it's 100 grams heavier or lighter.

I am used to heavy jackets (I am a motorcyclist, and those jackets can weigh more than 3 kg) and, if the jacket fits well, I don't typically feel the extra weight when I'm wearing it, but typically wish it were lighter when I have to take it off and carry it (e.g. if I walk indoors, in a very warm environment, like an underground train, a store, some airports, etc.).
 

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But you tried them on. How is a scale reading more useful than the feeling you registered when you tried it on? How did you feel about the weight when you put them on?

What am I missing? :confused2:
 

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Again, totally completely useless pointless banal curiosity.

Like with heavier motorcycle jackets, I didn't feel the weight when wearing them, but wouldn't have wanted to carry them on my arm for long.

To make a stupid example, one can have the curiosity of what the 0-60 time of a car is, without finding that metric in any way relevant to the decision to purchase it or not.
 
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Bravo! Nice choice. Can’t wait to get mine (Army green herringbone)...
 

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army is definitely the more versatile, but feeling bold today, and this shade of red still goes well with most of the dark color (grey/black/navy) that I think won't be some one off piece
 

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Excellent choice!

Oddly, Norwegian Rain is more daring and bold when it comes to colour ranges than outdoor gear brands like Arcteryx or Patagonia, that do flashy short jackets, but tend to do longer coats and parkas in the usual black and navy (Arcteryx has a nice maroon colour in its Veilance range, but that's overpriced, is more expensive than NR).

Not sure what the prices are in other countries, but here in Brexitland the black and navy herringbone cost about £1k, whereas the other colours £820. Army green is still available, the beautiful dark red not anymore, not even on NR website (it's not even an option any more). A store (not the official one) has a dark brown version I haven't seen elsewhere. The NR site shows a picture of a light grey Moscow, but that doesn't seem to be available any more, either. Maybe they change some colours each season?
 

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With some googling I found this site, which shouts SCAM in capital letters:
http://www.thibaud-sabathier.com/norwegian-rain-moscow-shearlingcollar-technical-coat-dark-khakigreen-mens-p-41.html
Selling most NR coats at a 70% discount? Methinks not, because the price is too low, there is no indication of the legal entity behind the store, of where the items are shipped from, no postal address, no telephone number, and some sentences are in a broken English (We takes seriously of customers' privacy security), which would be fine if it were a foreign site, but there is no indication that it is.

I will contact NR to let them know. I doubt google will remove the link, though, because these guys are probably an advertiser.
 

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Excellent choice!

Oddly, Norwegian Rain is more daring and bold when it comes to colour ranges than outdoor gear brands like Arcteryx or Patagonia, that do flashy short jackets, but tend to do longer coats and parkas in the usual black and navy (Arcteryx has a nice maroon colour in its Veilance range, but that's overpriced, is more expensive than NR).

Not sure what the prices are in other countries, but here in Brexitland the black and navy herringbone cost about £1k, whereas the other colours £820. Army green is still available, the beautiful dark red not anymore, not even on NR website (it's not even an option any more). A store (not the official one) has a dark brown version I haven't seen elsewhere. The NR site shows a picture of a light grey Moscow, but that doesn't seem to be available any more, either. Maybe they change some colours each season?
doesn't NMWA has alight grey
 

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Thanks! Unfortunately not in my size :(
Ordering from the US to the UK I'd have to pay custom duties, but I understand I'd have to do that even if I ordered from Norway. Norway is not part of the EU, even if it has a number of agreements and treaties with the EU (the extent and details of which very few people seem to really understand!).
 

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I have tried a few NR coats, and must say I don’t actually find them particularly heavy. The ones without the winter lining don’t seem heavy at all. The Moscow is heavier, but it also has a collar and thermal padding almost all the way to the knee, whereas some coats may have thermal padding only to the waist, even if they are longer. Maybe this contributes to making it feel heavier?

Anyway, I have some an, ehm, pedantic questions for NR owners:

1) The internal zip pockets: you unzip them pulling the zip from the bottom to the top. This is the first I see of it. I have always seen internal pockets that open the other way round – pulling the zip from the top to the bottom. How do you find this? I have tried it in store and it seems a bit fiddly. I usually keep phone and wallet in the two internal pockets. I don’t mind the wallet, as I don’t take it often, but I do take the phone often, to check messages etc. I have tried leaving the phone in and not zipping the pocket; the phone seemed relatively secure, but I’m not too sure. You’re not bothered by this?

2) The hood. It does not have any adjustment strings or cords. Do you find this inconvenient? I use the hood a lot when it rains; with other coats, if the hood is not adjustable, lateral visibility is typically reduced, and I often have to take it off or pull it back when I cross the road (I don’t even have a car, I go everywhere by public transport).

3) army green or mixed navy? They both look great and different enough from the usual black and dark navy, without being too in-your-face. I can't seem to decide between the two. Which would be more versatile to match colors? Almost all of my shoes are black, and well, I plan to wear the coat with a combination of denim and dark chinos - maybe even over a suit, but that would be rarer. Thoughts?
 

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1) the bottom of the zipper is not the bottom of the pocket (it's deeper) so not an issue in any way
2) the hoods are adjustable. There are 3 positions of snaps to cinch it. It's more secure than drawstrings
 
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Thanks! Unfortunately not in my size :(
Ordering from the US to the UK I'd have to pay custom duties, but I understand I'd have to do that even if I ordered from Norway. Norway is not part of the EU, even if it has a number of agreements and treaties with the EU (the extent and details of which very few people seem to really understand!).
oh well, can't get around that part, I used to live in London, and one time I ordered something from US without doing much research got hit massively by duty (which I'm fine) and the what I think is ridiculous parcel clearing blah blah fee
 

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