Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Piobaire, Dec 5, 2010.
(It's actually because I watched that scene yesterday)
The Joffrey/Patrick Bateman scene was a little unnecessary. Even if you didn't read the books there has been enough to show he is a sick twisted little fuck. The extra sex they're throwing in is taking away from the story.
Yeah, I was just talking to my friend about this and I think that the only sex-scene that has really added something to the story was the Renly/Margaery one. It helped clarify some things that were only really shown in the character's thoughts/narrative of the book that would have been really hard to do from another character's POV...so it made sense to have that wedding night scene.
It shows us both
-that she is born and bred nobility who has a sense and understanding of what her duty is (as opposed to Sansa who wanted to fall in love and marry the prince and seemed to have no idea how marriages were used to broker power).
-and it shows us that there was no consummation of the marriage that night (and it is unlikely that there will be unless Renly relents and lets Loras join in as a fluffer). Consummation of marriage was kind of an important thing back in the middle ages...and we certainly have Littlefinger taking note of whats going on with their tents.
I agree, and that part
wasn't in the book
I don't think anyone means it was unnecessary as it was "too much violence for TV" or anything similar. By unnecessary, I believe they mean the scene wasn't needed to paint Joffrey as a little shit, especially since it's not in the book (which isn't really a spoiler, so I'm not putting it in spoiler tags).
It wasn't completely over the top, but it was unnecessary and not especially tasteful. We already know Joffrey is a evil little shit, showing him forcing a couple of naked hookers to abuse each other is a waste of time and kind of awkward/uncomfortable.
I think people are complaining because there just could've been better use for time. There's so many little scenes and minor characters, it's hard to find time for them on. That being said, I really do enjoy the smaller characters like Davos, Theon, Jorah, even Robb, they seem more "alive" to me than the books but then again it's been years since I've read the first few books.
That being said, I rather enjoy Joffrey's scenes, I think the HBO series does a good job of showing his cruelty in a way the books couldn't convey. I don't mind these scenes because the "antagonists" are enjoyable to watch in GoT. Even though Lord Tywin had a total of what, 60 seconds on screen, he still managed to leave a lasting impression for me. I just wonder of these feelings of emphasis come across to people who haven't read the books.
do you think he had her beaten with the scepter, or impaled on it?
He had her beaten. She clearly swings it in an arch at the end, you hear a smacking sound, and Joffery yells harder.
i would agree.
at first i thought it was going to be used as a dildo
yup, me too.
Me too. That would have been the worst... that scepter had like, antlers
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