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OFFICIAL Game of Thrones Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Piobaire, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Stylish Dinosaur

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    Ah- sorry about that!
     


  2. Van Veen

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    To be fair, you both said it was obvious.
     


  3. Ataturk

    Ataturk Stylish Dinosaur

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    They are both named Sam, but they're not all that similar. Sam the hobbit is only fat in the movie. IIRC the only fat hobbit in the book is Frodo and he's only that way at the beginning (in the books he's older, not younger than the rest of the hobbits like in the movie). And while he's nominally the sidekick, Sam is pretty much the protagonist for the last 2/3 of the story. It's all told from his point of view and he pretty much drags Frodo along.
     


  4. double00

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    i'd read a blurb that Samwell Tarly is essentially GRRM's avatar. makes as much sense as anything (also makes the sex scene with Gilly pretty funny)
     


  5. wojt

    wojt Distinguished Member

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    why?

    because it looks more shit than the actual fight now you can see that none of Briennes swings are on target, Arya could just stand there and not make a single dodge because these hits were like 2 feet away.

    Still whole fight makes little sense, ninja and asasin tricks aside in actual open field swordplay Arya should have no chance vs Brienne, experience, better reach of both arms and weapon etc. Scene made look Brienne incompetent.
     


  6. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Stylish Dinosaur

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    Aside from the similar but not identical names, isn't that a fairly common archetype for the loyal sidekick? You could plug in Ron from Harry Potter, Donkey from Shrek, Sancho Panza from Don Quixote, Dr. Maturin in the Master and Commander novels, Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. In his own way Poderick largely fits this mold as well.
    They're not all fat, but as Turk points out neither is Samwise in the books. The trope basically is that for some reason (fat, cowardly, dumb, whatever) they're not cut out for the onvious hero's role but distinguish themselves through loyalty.
     


  7. Rumpelstiltskin

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    This was an impromptu sparring session. Brienne could hardly think that Lady Arya Stark with her little pretty sword would have had any level of skill at all, much less a flowery "foreign" style. She deeply underestimated Arya's competence as well as foreign fighting style and was taught a valuable lesson: it can be dangerous to believe your own hype
     
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  8. Lionel Hutz

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    Will we get Cleganebowl in the show?
     


  9. ThinkDerm

    ThinkDerm Stylish Dinosaur

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    yes - episode 5 or 6, season 8
     


  10. Lionel Hutz

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  11. dopey

    dopey Stylish Dinosaur Dubiously Honored

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    I am looking forward.
    On another topic, I am kind of annoyed with myself for having a hard time keeping the shows and the books separate. I have been re-reading the books and the characters and plots are in so many ways different from the show (usually, better and richer) but I find the show imprint is much stronger and it is hard to overwrite in mind. Maybe the new book, when it ever arrives, will help erase that, but I doubt it.
     
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  12. wojt

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    I don't have high hopes for season 8, show is missing the book material and it shows a lot, still I'm wondering how they will wrap it all up

    ps. the season postponed to 2019 :(
     


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    ^^
    I can't read Slaughterhouse-Five without picturing Valerie Perrine.

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    lefty
     


  14. Mariokartfever

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    Keep in mind GRRM thought he had 6 months of writing left on TWOW in like 2013. Then he was sure he could make a Halloween release in 2016. Then he was sure he would have it done by EOY in 2016, so it could be rushed to publisher and released before the 2017 TV season to avoid major spoilers.

    We are now six and a half years past the release of ADWD, at which point GRRM was claiming TWOW was already half done. I'm a little worried that he has no idea how to finish the story and is just going to die before its done.
     


  15. wojt

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    Authors tend to do that, they either are bored with characters already or do not have a good ending in mind. Then one evening they sit down with "fuck this let end this book attitude". It was like that with Witcher books first 3 were great, 4th one was average and 5th one was just barely readable with half-assed ending.
     


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