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OFFICIAL Game of Thrones Thread

Discussion in 'Entertainment, Culture, and Sports' started by Piobaire, Dec 5, 2010.

  1. venividivicibj

    venividivicibj Senior member

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    Ah- sorry about that!
     


  2. Van Veen

    Van Veen Senior member

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    To be fair, you both said it was obvious.
     


  3. Ataturk

    Ataturk Senior member

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    They are both named Sam, but they're not all that similar. Sam the hobbit is only fat in the movie. IIRC the only fat hobbit in the book is Frodo and he's only that way at the beginning (in the books he's older, not younger than the rest of the hobbits like in the movie). And while he's nominally the sidekick, Sam is pretty much the protagonist for the last 2/3 of the story. It's all told from his point of view and he pretty much drags Frodo along.
     


  4. double00

    double00 Senior member

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    i'd read a blurb that Samwell Tarly is essentially GRRM's avatar. makes as much sense as anything (also makes the sex scene with Gilly pretty funny)
     


  5. wojt

    wojt Senior member

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    why?

    because it looks more shit than the actual fight now you can see that none of Briennes swings are on target, Arya could just stand there and not make a single dodge because these hits were like 2 feet away.

    Still whole fight makes little sense, ninja and asasin tricks aside in actual open field swordplay Arya should have no chance vs Brienne, experience, better reach of both arms and weapon etc. Scene made look Brienne incompetent.
     


  6. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    Aside from the similar but not identical names, isn't that a fairly common archetype for the loyal sidekick? You could plug in Ron from Harry Potter, Donkey from Shrek, Sancho Panza from Don Quixote, Dr. Maturin in the Master and Commander novels, Cameron in Ferris Bueller's Day Off. In his own way Poderick largely fits this mold as well.
    They're not all fat, but as Turk points out neither is Samwise in the books. The trope basically is that for some reason (fat, cowardly, dumb, whatever) they're not cut out for the onvious hero's role but distinguish themselves through loyalty.
     


  7. Rumpelstiltskin

    Rumpelstiltskin Senior member

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    This was an impromptu sparring session. Brienne could hardly think that Lady Arya Stark with her little pretty sword would have had any level of skill at all, much less a flowery "foreign" style. She deeply underestimated Arya's competence as well as foreign fighting style and was taught a valuable lesson: it can be dangerous to believe your own hype
     
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