OFFICIAL Game of Thrones Thread

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  1. HRoi

    HRoi Senior member

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    I got the cold sweats when I read about the Red Wedding. then I put down the book and had to re-read it because I couldn't believe it happened.

    GoT has a lot of distinguishing characteristics but this IMO is the biggest one - GRRM is perfectly willing to let you get completely invested in a white knight character only to abruptly and brutally kill him off - Ned Stark being the other primary example
     


  2. otc

    otc Senior member

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    Yeah, I think I remember having to reread it too. I just couldn't believe all of that had happened...and it happens *really* fast in the book IIRC (especially with shit like festival tents that are rigged to collapse and be lit on fire to kill off the army escort). One minute they are alive and bedding Edmure with his attractive lady (which you rationalize as "well of course he wants the pretty daughter to be the one who produces the heir to the riverlands...don't want ugly lords and laidies") and then everybody is just dead.


    #BOYCOTTGameOfThrones
     


  3. in stitches

    in stitches Kung Joo Moderator

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    interesting point.

    also, as said above, once the door was closed, it should have been obvious to everyone what was about to happen. or at least that something very bad was going to happen.
     


  4. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    I don't think that someone who posts random expletives on the internet when his favored sports team is losing really gets to tell people to "grow up" because they feel invested in the characters in a well-told fictional drama . . .
     


  5. gettoasty

    gettoasty Senior member

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    Different expectations




    But you you caught me! :eek:

    I did have this expression after the scene though: :fu:
    So, I was torn a bit
     


  6. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    :)
    I have not watched the series, but my reaction when I read the books was probably similar to HRoi's . . .
     


  7. Piobaire

    Piobaire Not left of center?

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    I have to admit to a certain level of frustration with the books, because as he kills off so many characters, I'm trying to figure out how this fictional world resolves back to a status quo.
     


  8. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    You mean, like
    Hi Stitches! :)
    ?
     
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  9. munchausen

    munchausen Senior member

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    It doesn't. It will never be the same. But I think the last two books are going to be like a revenge tragedy, with Arya gutting Freys, Boltons and Lannisters left and right on the way to her own death. I suspect we end the story with the future of the Seven Kingdoms very much in doubt and most of the characters we know dead.
     


  10. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    The way she was killed gave some eerie subtext to Frey's comment about seeing what under a woman's clothes. I can't remember if she is pregnant in the books, but the fact that she is left alive gave the impression that she would come back into play later.

    The Jaime line missed because he specifically told Bolton to give his regards to Robb in the previous episode. Had Bolton delivered the line it would have, well ... had a certain Boltonness to it. I don't think it would have hurt Jaime's redemption. Him going back for Brienne is all that was needed.

    On needing an army to take the Iron Throne ... look at what Baelish has done more or less on his own.

    Fucking Freys.

    lefty
     
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  11. lawyerdad

    lawyerdad Senior member

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    Interesting. That seems like a reasonable prediction. I think most of us fall prey, to some extent, to the assumption that there will be some sort of definitive resolution. You are certainly right that there is no reason that has to be the case.
     


  12. munchausen

    munchausen Senior member

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    Part of me thinks this story ends with Baelish on the throne

    with Sansa as his queen.
    Martin might be just enough of a creep to do that.
     
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  13. lefty

    lefty Senior member

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    He really needs to hear the word "no" occasionally.

    lefty
     


  14. iamacyborg

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    Well, I just realised that certain types of music making my skin crawl isn't a particularly unusual event.

    As far as the episode, hah, glorious. The reactions make it all the better.
     


  15. scurvyfreedman

    scurvyfreedman Senior member

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    there is always peace after war, or at least detente. Some cold wars simmer on for decades. But, eventually, once the Long Winter is upon everyone, they will recognize that either none or most will survive and they will band together to protect the First Men and the Andals and the Rhyonar. And, someone will be the leader, and he or she will be the Protector of the Realm and everyone else will swear fealty. Eventually, that person will keep the peace because the vast majority of the other Kingdoms will support him/her if there is an insurrection.

    I have a feeling the Dance of the Dragons short story will be a foreshadowing of Dany versus Aegon and like that little girl greendreamer in the Arienne teaser says, many will die in their war to prove ultimate Targ. Only the Iron Islanders are likely not to join whomever is the best leader against the Others.
     


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