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***Official Franco Ercoles Bespoke Thread (Brooklyn/Manhattan)***

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by NewYorkIslander, Dec 7, 2010.

  1. Axelman 17

    Axelman 17 Senior member

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    Thanks ET. The suit is maybe a shade darker than I had anticipated. It makes it less summery but also more dressy and versatile. It is quite hard to tell it is linen from afar. That my change as it breaks in and wrinkles. Pretty sure this is the same W. Bill that Medtech had made up from Mina.
     
  2. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    I like the look of barchetta with no pocket square but I think I'm coming to prefer straight for when I wear a PS, especially a white linen.
     
  3. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I'm excited to hear about how you think it performs in warmer weather.
     
  4. DLJr

    DLJr Senior member

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    That's definitely lower than what I've seen from him.
     
  5. poorsod

    poorsod Senior member

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    Mine has a similar button position.
     
  6. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I like it. I mean it is summer suit, not really meant to be too close. It is very comfy. I mean the difference between this button point and some of my others is like a matter of 3/4".
     
  7. Manton

    Manton Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    shape of booth's is fine. could be more nipped but that's purely a matter of preference. I do think the button stance is off, though.
     
  8. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I've been thinking about having the pockets lowered on future commissions around 1/2". Manton, what would you think of that?
     
  9. DLJr

    DLJr Senior member

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    It's definitely noticeable in the 2nd pic. Maybe it's the angle.
     
  10. Cantabrigian

    Cantabrigian Senior member

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    You can make it look 3 dimensional / bespoke (I'm a good way) without making it close or restrictive. If anything, it might be slightly more comfortable with a little bit of drape in the check and a little less baggy inthe waist.
     
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  11. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    The chest is very drapey actually, the waist is loose. I think nipping the waist more would give that effect. I'm fine with it as is i want to wear it more before changing anything. I
     
  12. Pasha

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    I actually wanted to try them out. But looking at this suit I am having second thoughts...
     
  13. comrade

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    Compared to whom? NSM?
    I would take it any time over Mina's confections.
     
  14. Eustace Tilley

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    So sensitive. No one even mentioned Mina but you felt compelled to take a potshot.

    Pasha - Frank's stuff is not typically styled like that. Take the pic of PB's suit w/ you and ask Frank to make it more waisted with a higher buttoning point, and you'll be fine.
     
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    Hmm. Negative references to NSM denote insecurity?
     
  16. Eustace Tilley

    Eustace Tilley Senior member

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    In the manner put forward by you, probably.
     
  17. DLJr

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    What made you want to try them? Was it based on other pictures? If it was, why is this one suit changing your mind? PB's stuff is typically a good example of how flexible Frank is IMO.
     
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    Are you in any way professionally qualified to judge others' psychological
    states? My guess is not at all.
     
  19. patrickBOOTH

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    Typical from somebody inexperienced. There are a number of facts here:

    1. Im not skinny and I'm not athletic
    2. The suit has all of the earmarks of a good fitting suit: tight collar, good sleeve pitch, high armholes, smooth perfect shoulders no pulls or anything.
    3. I was the one who wanted the button stance lowered
    4. Everything else is purely stylistic
    5. Frank wants to make a lean suit, but I don't

    It goes back to the old foo saying of nip anything at the waist and people go nutso for it. Waist suppression isn't what makes a suit great. I would say it is of the least importance. Of the most important this suit has 9 ticks out of 10 a much better score than 99% of the population if you ask me.
     
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    Patrick, in regard to points #3 and #5, it seems like at least part of Franks's stylistic instinct runs directly counter to yours. Does it ever become fatiguing to guide Frank toward what you want rather than using a tailor whose natural inclinations match yours?
     

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