***Official Franco Ercoles Bespoke Thread (Brooklyn/Manhattan)***

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  1. taxgenius

    taxgenius Senior member

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    Ercole's wife told me that using the very cheapest fabric (I don't know what qualifes) would be $175 but that most people spend a lot more.
     


  2. Grammaton Cleric

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    Its $150 for CMT, so I imagine Silverline and the like start at $225-$250
     


  3. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Most of what Spoo wears is Borrelli. Like I said this appears to look a lot like that.



    Actual Borrelli collars for whatever reason don't work on me. For some reason the points never reach the lapels on any of my jackets. It must be my shoulder/neck or something.

    FWIW, Borrelli shirts are way more expensive than Ercole's Bespoke. Plus I am tall with long arms, there are zero shirts that accommodate this that have collars that I like AND are unfused. So basically I care about collar, sleeve length, and construction. That is extremely hard to come by in RTW. The waist of my shirts? I could care less, the only people to see me without a jacket on where it would evr been an issue is my barber and my girlfriend. And the toilet. Finally, I like supporting a craft and getting things locally.
     
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  4. Testudo_Aubreii

    Testudo_Aubreii Senior member

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    Sounds and looks good, but try some ivory and cream! I'd be very surprised if you don't like the results.
     


  5. Axelman 17

    Axelman 17 Senior member

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    Looks good, I agree about the points and the spread. I would also add tie space but that is a personal preference. How hard/soft is the collar lining?
     


  6. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    It is very, very soft.
     


  7. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    My white shirts turn ivory and cream over time. I am ok with this.
     


  8. ballmouse

    ballmouse Senior member

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    Just curious, what is the length of the collar point now? 3"?
     


  9. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    I have no idea. I will have to measure later. I think the height of the collar band has to do with the points seemingly being slightly short.

    This might be a weird question, but what is the difference between "more tie space" and just getting a more spread collar? To me it is the same thing. :confused:
     
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  10. Despos

    Despos Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Tie space is the horizontal distance between the top of the collar, above the tie knot.

    Spread is the distance measured horizontally between the lowest points of the collar

    Patrick, why you make tie knot so tight? Loosen up Man!
     
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  11. Testudo_Aubreii

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    OK, but I suspect we mean something different by "cream," unless something weird is happening to the shirts in cleaning.
     


  12. Axelman 17

    Axelman 17 Senior member

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    Put differently, if you have tie space, the two sides of the collar will not meet, there will be a bit of space in between.
     


  13. patrickBOOTH

    patrickBOOTH Senior member Dubiously Honored

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    Ah, this makes sense.

    I am totally loose. A little too lose from the waist down. Sans pants. :slayer:


    There is something very weird about the cleaning. It is ME who is doing it. :D


    Makes sense now. Even more to think about.
     
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  14. TheTukker

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    Aha; glad I helped you articulate there is more to it than just collar. In any case, this makes sense.

    But don't underestimate the way you look in the bathroom, especially since half of SF takes its fit pics there.
     


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    PB, I may have him copy that collar for me...just with a bit more tie space. Hope you don't mind...
     


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