Official Events and PSA thread

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  1. TC11201

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    i agree with all of that. certainly, this is a good $700-$1000 below oxxford mtm and world's apart, from what i understand, from many of nyc bespoke tailors. clearly value is always a very subjective concept, but given the going rate for high quality bespoke in nyc, london and a host of other spots, this certainly appears to be a potential bargain. as for any need to justify, i'd say you're in good company - i'll jump right behind you in that line since i'm thinking of undertaking the same experiment!
     
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    The benefit of Solito/Ambrosi doing a suit is that it adds another option to New Yorkers who want to try sample another traveling Neopolitan tailor. With Ambrosi you get an added benefit of making up suit and odd trousers with an artisan who is competitively priced and considered at the top of the game

    The price issue shouldn't be an issue. Either you have the money or not. Once you have the money in the $3000 range...then you have numerous bespoke options....now add Solito/Ambrosi as another feather in your quiver
     
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    I think the prices are extremely attractive, particularly given the going rate for good bespoke in New York City and London. But more importantly, Ambrosi and Solito make a different kind of bespoke suit that you typically must travel to Naples for. So, you might not want a Neapolitan suit, but you're on the wrong track if you are merely assessing Ambrosi and Solito as a value proposition against other NYC-accessible tailors.

    You'll be happiest using their services if you want what they do than if you are just looking for a relative bargain on a nice suit.
     
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    I think the prices are extremely attractive, particularly given the going rate for good bespoke in New York City and London. But more importantly, Ambrosi and Solito make a different kind of bespoke suit that you typically must travel to Naples for. So, you might not want a Neapolitan suit, but you're on the wrong track if you are merely assessing Ambrosi and Solito as a value proposition against other NYC-accessible tailors.

    Why is this not an advisable approach. It seems to me to be a prudent approach

    You'll be happiest using their services if you want what they do than if you are just looking for a relative bargain on a nice suit.


    Again, if your point is that you will be happiest with the cut that he/they consider their house style or default style I might agree with you. But Solito has been at this a long time. I am sure he has the ability to produce any style that his clients request.
     
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    Again, if your point is that you will be happiest with the cut that he/they consider their house style or default style I might agree with you. But Solito has been at this a long time. I am sure he has the ability to produce any style that his clients request.
    Eh. I think people are better off shying away from designing their own suit, unless they are very expert.
     
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    Again, if your point is that you will be happiest with the cut that he/they consider their house style or default style I might agree with you. But Solito has been at this a long time. I am sure he has the ability to produce any style that his clients request.

    i suppose the question, then, is whether he will. others seem to have alluded to a certain reticence to deviate from his preferred style. perhaps there is someone who can clarify whether this is the case.
     
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    Eh. I think people are better off shying away from designing their own suit, unless they are very expert.

    You have just stripped my life of all meaning.
     
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    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    You have just stripped my life of all meaning.
    There was a qualifier their. It was meant for you.
     
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    Manton RINO Dubiously Honored

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    There was a qualifier their. It was meant for you.

    I am an amateur. I don't draft my own patterns.
     
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    voxsartoria Goon member

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    I am an amateur. I don't draft my own patterns.

    You need a Sears catalog, but from 1938.


    - B
     
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    itsstillmatt The Liberator Dubiously Honored

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    I am an amateur. I don't draft my own patterns.

    You need a Sears catalog, but from 1938.


    - B


    Too nouveau, it has to be 1902.

    Anyway, Manton, start small. I suggest this as your first pattern drafting project.

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    Again, if your point is that you will be happiest with the cut that he/they consider their house style or default style I might agree with you. But Solito has been at this a long time. I am sure he has the ability to produce any style that his clients request.

    Because a tailor's particular methods, preferences, experience, and taste play significant roles in determining the style and design of what he makes for you. If you want lean and structured, I have no idea why you would even consider Solito when there are dozens of other reputable tailors more used to doing that sort of thing.
     
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    But Solito has been at this a long time. I am sure he has the ability to produce any style that his clients request.

    "Can," "will," "will do well," and "will do so happily and well" are quite different things with a bespoke tailor.

    I guess I am also a believer in refinement over time. One thing I would consider very seriously with a bespoke tailor is the likelihood of regular, dependable access as the years pass by. Proximity, age, and visiting history for visiting tailors are all important elements of this.

    - B
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Solito was more in the traditional Naples vein, i.e., not so structured but quite lean. What he makes for M. Marinella (and possibly others) is not his default style, no?
     
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    Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought Solito was more in the traditional Naples vein, i.e., not so structured but quite lean. What he makes for M. Marinella (and possibly others) is not his default style, no?

    I don't know what his standard is, but based on the photo of him, he's clearly quite comfortable doing a very draped chest.
     

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