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Compare the photo on Herrings shoes site, which is an old picture with the photo on Trickers website and you can certainly see how the leather has changed.Sounds great! Any chance we can get some photos?
So you don't actually own a pair but you know for a fact that the weight of the leather has changed based on comparing two photos whose colour temperature will almost certainly be different or are you privy to some other information. How recently did Tricker's change the Grassmere Zug Brown to a lighter weight; are we talking in the last year, two years, when did Tricker's make this change?Compare the photo on Herrings shoes site, which is an old picture with the photo on Trickers website and you can certainly see how the leather has changed.
Both your posts to me are written aggressively. Why? Are you a troll?So you don't actually own a pair but you know for a fact that the weight of the leather has changed based on comparing two photos whose colour temperature will almost certainly be different or are you privy to some other information. How recently did Tricker's change the Grassmere Zug Brown to a lighter weight; are we talking in the last year, two years, when did Tricker's make this change?
No I'm not a Troll, I'm a Distinguished Member that joined Style Forum in 2011 that has previously contributed 1,262 posts to the forum. Nothing aggressive about my posts in respect to the claims you've made, I'm not name calling to defend myself, but I'll admit there's irritation in my last post because you've appeared to support your claim with no real evidence. Now you're claiming it's based on a very old pair of Grassmere that you gave away to charity many years ago, right, so no direct comparison, just speculation based on your perceived memory. I don't disagree that the shade and hue of the brown zug has some variation, this is inevitable due to the fact each time the Tanneries make up a batch of new leather it won't be exactly the same due to the number of processes the leather goes through. The older brown zug tended to have a red hue. I've compared the leather on the Herring site (and elsewhere) to that on the Tricker's site and I see no differences in the overall quality of the leather – yes, one appears to be a darker shade of brown but that could be down to the studio's lighting and the camera's colour temperature settings – apart from that the leather appears to be exactly the same. I certainly don't see any difference in the weight of the leather or would be able to make a claim that the leather's weight has changed based on these photos. How about you post up some photos of your Ilkleys in the 'modern leather'?Both your posts to me are written aggressively. Why? Are you a troll?
I owned an older pair for many years but gave them away to charity. I now own a pair of Ilkleys in the modern leather. The Grasmere use the same leather. That’s how I know. And, yes, you can tell a lot from carefully examining photos.
This is strange. When I order to UAE there are only two options - UK and ROW. ROW removes VAT and is still shown in GBP. For me the change In currency only happens with my bank, not Tricker's.Just looked at the new Trickers website. If you sign in as a US customer, all of their boots are now listed at $785. The same boots are listed on the UK site at 585 Pounds. At today's exchange rate, that's $732.94. So it appears that not only are they not deducting VAT, but also they're charging a premium on top of normal exchange rates.
This is the new Trickers website that just went live. To be clear, not the outlet site.This is strange. When I order to UAE there are only two options - UK and ROW. ROW removes VAT and is still shown in GBP. For me the change In currency only happens with my bank, not Tricker's.
I hadn't seen the new site. Just checked the price in AED and it's in line with the exchange rate minus VAT. Not sure why it's out in USD.This is the new Trickers website that just went live. To be clear, not the outlet site.
Perfect timing because at these newer prices I don't intend on buying any new footwear from them.The new website is built on Shopify and they purchased a theme from fluorescent.
I had a chat with a man who runs a shoe shop in Bath and he said he was planning on discontinuing the sale of Trickers in his store for this very reason. He said he can shift C&J at this price point but that Trickers are pricing themselves out.Perfect timing because at these newer prices I don't intend on buying any new footwear from them.
Yeah it is weird how perception is everything, yeah? Even though we might be able to objectively say that both makers are par for quality, C&J seems to have the edge in terms of higher priced appeal. Ah well. I think for me its just that I am overbought in a lot of Trickers styles so price rise or not there isn't much more from their range that I want to add to my collection.I had a chat with a man who runs a shoe shop in Bath and he said he was planning on discontinuing the sale of Trickers in his store for this very reason. He said he can shift C&J at this price point but that Trickers are pricing themselves out.
Yeah, perhaps C&J offering more elegant styles gives the impression of being higher end? I put the Islay next to some Stows in his store and I could see why some might view them as a superior boot. I actually prefer the Stow as I like the wide round country look. I do feel like Trickers are a little less consistent in their finishing though.Yeah it is weird how perception is everything, yeah? Even though we might be able to objectively say that both makers are par for quality, C&J seems to have the edge in terms of higher priced appeal. Ah well. I think for me its just that I am overbought in a lot of Trickers styles so price rise or not there isn't much more from their range that I want to add to my collection.
Yeah look means everything right. 🤣 But I agree with everything you say.Yeah, perhaps C&J offering more elegant styles gives the impression of being higher end? I put the Islay next to some Stows in his store and I could see why some might view them as a superior boot. I actually prefer the Stow as I like the wide round country look. I do feel like Trickers are a little less consistent in their finishing though.