Offical TRICKERS shoes and boots thread

[rob80bboots]

My guess is that this is the “no through” construction that Tricker’s has been talking up for at least a year or so..........
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In the meantime I’ll enjoy wearing them as they are. .......

Thanks for the insight.

...and Ditto. ?

 

[rob80bboots]

Regarding "no through" or "Thru" as they say....this is from 2 years ago.

You are entirely correct Sir, a 'Through' or 'Thru' is a Middle Sole. On most Tricker's and depending on which model and which type of 'Outsole' is fitted, a 'Leather' Thru' of around 2 - 3mm is fitted. Just for information, it is also possible to have a 'Half' Thru' fitted on MTO, and depending on personal preference or which Outsole is fitted, a Microfoam Rubber Thru' is sometimes used too. Microfoam Rubber Thru' are usually fitted when the Outsole is 'Bonded' in place rather than Stitched. Example; the Vibram Rubber 'Gumlite' Sole.

Thanks Richard! Always good to have your input on these shoe construction type issues

Most welcome Sir, always happy to help if I can

You know for what it worth and always personal preferences considered too, being in the repairs business we modify a lot of shoes from leather to Dainite soles, and I always consider a Dainite or 'hard' Rubber sole always sits better on top of a Thru, wether it is leather or microfoam rubber. For me, they add a little more durability and comfort.

 

[Crafty Cumbrian]

Was doing a search on Olivvia leather and came across these .....Black Eaton in Deerskin made for Proconsol in Los Angeles.

Olivvia Deerskin Boot

Commando Sole, 4497 Last What is Olivvia Leather? Developed in partnership with German tannery Weinheimer, Olivvia leather uses an all-natural tanning procedure. In this process, an essence from olive leaves is used for tanning. The olive leaves provide a completely chrome-free tanning...

www.proconsulclothing.com

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Don't believe Crafty has a pair of these.....yet

Weirdly someone on Instagram tagged these recently and were out of my size. I’ve the deerskin Burford and super soft. Longevity not so sure on..

 

[zippyh]

Weirdly someone on Instagram tagged these recently and were out of my size. I’ve the deerskin Burford and super soft. Longevity not so sure on..

Honestly, does longevity matter at this point?

 

[rob80bboots]

Weirdly someone on Instagram tagged these recently and were out of my size. ......

Ah...then your off the hook.

.........I’ve the deerskin Burford and super soft. Longevity not so sure on..

....then I believe those are also minus the "Thru" as discussed earlier.....which may or may not affect longevity....any opinion...specifically underfoot.

 

[Reiver]

Ah...then your off the hook.


....then I believe those are also minus the "Thru" as discussed earlier.....which may or may not affect longevity....any opinion...specifically underfoot.

I would have thought longevity should be the same as it’s the same sole unit.

I do wonder if the flexibility it brings could lead to increased creasing of the upper. I know for example that I have heard that shell footwear on a leather sole tends to get more rolls than Dainite soled shoes due to it being more flexible. Not sure how true this is.

 

[rob80bboots]

I would have thought longevity should be the same as it’s the same sole unit.

I do wonder if the flexibility it brings could lead to increased creasing of the upper. I know for example that I have heard that shell footwear on a leather sole tends to get more rolls than Dainite soled shoes due to it being more flexible. Not sure how true this is.

I would think with the same care they should last equally as long....
As for the creasing, a boot or shoe needs to to flex otherwise walking would be uncomfortable at best, without the use of shoe trees I'm sure the thinner sole will have a tendency to curl easier while drying and more so if it is of all leather construction.
Contrary to many opinions I'm finding the Dainite are the stiffer of the bunch and was expecting my new Sheene to be even stiffer with the Commando but discovering it lacks a "Thru" (third 2-3mm middle layer) as discussed earlier answered that question...not too sure they reduce roll though.

 

[Crafty Cumbrian]

Before...

 

[Crafty Cumbrian]

After..

decided on double JR leather sole, toe plates and topy covers...

Arrive back tomorrow after insanely fast turnaround from The Shoe Healer team.

 

[Crafty Cumbrian]

Honestly, does longevity matter at this point?

Ha
That’s true in so many ways mate! ??

 

[Crafty Cumbrian]

Ah...then your off the hook.


....then I believe those are also minus the "Thru" as discussed earlier.....which may or may not affect longevity....any opinion...specifically underfoot.

My comment was more to do with how fine the deerskin felt..that said if I wore them in the current rotation they’d never wear out!!
When I wear them I find them super comfortable and haven’t noticed any difference with the soles to be fair.

 

[Crafty Cumbrian]

Another reCraftying...

MC Ethan off it’s white sole and on JR double leather with topy and plates too!


Top class cobbling.

 

[sjmin209]

Black Bourtons for cheap on 6pm:

https://www.6pm.com/p/trickers-bourton-oxford/product/9333356

$193.50. Very limited sizes.

 

[zippyh]

Black Bourtons for cheap on 6pm:

https://www.6pm.com/p/trickers-bourton-oxford/product/9333356

$193.50. Very limited sizes.

Good deal but note they have the thinner soles like has been discussed lately.
The museum calf Bourtons I got from 6pm several weeks ago also have the thinner soles. About 9mm versus about 13mm for most Bourtons.

 

[rob80bboots]

Good deal but note they have the thinner soles like has been discussed lately.
The museum calf Bourtons I got from 6pm several weeks ago also have the thinner soles. About 9mm versus about 13mm for most Bourtons.

Might be thinner but appears to have the 3rd "Thru" layer.


My Sheenes also came from 6PM but through Amazon, 3rd "Thru" layer is obviously absent.