Hit Orvis tonight to try on both the Beaufort and the Bedale. Both were plenty boxy. I'm a 42R in general blazers and I have a 43" chest. I definitely wasn't a 42 in either the Beaufort or the Bedale. I tried going to down a 38 and while the body looked good, the chest was a bit snug. So I settled on the 40 as the correct size. I even used a tape measure to measure the pit-to-pit measurement. 40 was a 23 inch measurement. I then tried a liner underneath. It was a Large as they didn't have a Medium. I didn't zip it in, but it was on and I didn't notice a difference in fit/feel at all. So I came home to order at least one from Oi Polloi. I had a credit with them for a sale item I bought back in the Summer and had to return. They've since got rid of a brand I really like (Nigel Cabourn) and they haven't had much recently in the brands they still have that I do like. So they are currently running an outerwear sale with free shipping to the US on orders over 50 pounds. Well with the sale the Bedale is about $210 shipped and the Beaufort is about $235 shipped. Those seem like really competitive prices. Problem is they only have the Beaufort in Sage and they only have 42 and 44 left. So I missed out on that. I won't lose too much sleep over it as I prefer it much more in Olive and Navy. So I grabbed the Bedale in both Navy and Olive. The credit I had covered one of them with 3 pounds to spare and so I just grabbed the other one. I hope the fit is consistent with the ones I tried at Orvis. We'll see when they come. Pleased to use the credit though and definitely like the price on the Bedale. I would have preferred the Beaufort in Navy or Olive, but I can always score one some other time.