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Odd Tie Knots

The Devil's Hands

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I know most of those knots. the thing is, nothing really looks as good as a windsor.

The key to those knots that you tie by the tail is that you form the dimple first (which you should do anyway) and tie the knot really close to your neck. Those knots, fun though they may be to tie, are usually poor looking because the knot slides up and down the head of the tie, instead of the tail, making it difficult for it to hold a dimple.

As with most things, you want form on the outside and function on the inside.
 

jml90

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It seems a lot of those knots are the same and just renamed.
 

itsstillmatt

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I think that the four-in-hand and albert knots are nice with everything else being a bit too much. The windsor is really an ostentatious knot to me.

As far as the diagonal, it is a nice knot for cashmere and wool ties, but it is hard to tie. Here is one that I tied. I put it on with a random shirt just to show somebody how to tie one, so disregard the awful combo
 

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Originally Posted by iammatt
I think that the four-in-hand and albert knots are nice with everything else being a bit too much. The windsor is really an ostentatious knot to me.

As far as the diagonal, it is a nice knot for cashmere and wool ties, but it is hard to tie. Here is one that I tied. I put it on with a random shirt just to show somebody how to tie one, so disregard the awful combo


Wow that looks really good. Now that I know it is possible I will have to try harder.
 

itsstillmatt

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The whole thing is that you only want to do it with wool or cashmere ties because the shadow is what creates the nice effect. With a thinner silk tie there is not enough body to create a nice shadow.

FWIW, it took me about twenty minutes to tie it like that, and I have been tying that knot for ten years.
 

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I don't have any wool ties, I'll have to get one. Another one I tried tying was the Atlantic. No love there either.
 

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is there a way to see larger pictures of the actual tie knots? Just too damn small on my screen.
 

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Yeah I wish those diagrams all had actual pictures of the knots. The one matt posted is the first I've seen after scouring the internet.
 

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