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Obama's Visit to the UK - fit critique!

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by lincolnshirepaul, May 25, 2011.

  1. Jangofett

    Jangofett Senior member

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    He's not indecisive, he just don't do anything that isn't politically beneficial. In the event that grooming reelection aligns with action, it will happen. We've all know that since he was running in Illinois with those ridiculous bus full of old people into Canada ads. I don't like him, but I'm not convinced McCain would have been better.

    You reckon Hillary will be better?
     
  2. csoukoulis

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    How does assembling naked muslim prisoners in a human pyramid or putting a naked muslim prisoner in a dog leash or wearing a four bag constitute enhanced interrogating techniques?

    I was being sarcastic. I really couldn't care less if we torture terrorists. None of that is as bad as jumping 100 floors to your death from a burning building. Plus with them in our custody, is bet there was at least 1 woman saved a storing death for being raped.
     
  3. csoukoulis

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    You reckon Hillary will be better?

    At least her pants suits fit better lol.
     
  4. Jangofett

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    I was being sarcastic. I really couldn't care less if we torture terrorists. None of that is as bad as jumping 100 floors to your death from a burning building. Plus with them in our custody, is bet there was at least 1 woman saved a storing death for being raped.

    But one must admit, waterboarding is a hell of an invention.
    Imagine creating the illusion of drowning while one is not actually drowning. Wow! No evidence!

    Maybe CIA would invent the illusion of being anally fucked, while not actually being sodomised to interrogate the next generation of Abu Ghraib prisoners.
     
  5. Jangofett

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    At least her pants suits fit better lol.

    Nah. Her face looks better.

    I recall when she was First Lady, she had those frumpy curls.
    When she was running for Pres, she looked like some fucking 70 year old grandma.

    Now, from pictures etc, she at least look elegant and presidential like.
    Maybe she will be the next candidate in 2016?
    Aint no way Democrats are not supporting an existing president, so she better hope all the lipo and facetucks and botox can make her look like she is in her 40s in 5 years time.
     
  6. csoukoulis

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    But one must admit, waterboarding is a hell of an invention.
    Imagine creating the illusion of drowning while one is not actually drowning. Wow! No evidence!

    Maybe CIA would invent the illusion of being anally fucked, while not actually being sodomised to interrogate the next generation of Abu Ghraib prisoners.


    Maybe you could volunteer for the pilot program?
     
  7. Jangofett

    Jangofett Senior member

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    Maybe you could volunteer for the pilot program?

    Nah, wouldnt want to do it on others. Cheney may be there though.
     
  8. csoukoulis

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    Nah, wouldnt want to do it on others. Cheney may be there though.

    Not much of a giver huh? More of a power bottom?
     
  9. tmcevoy213

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    Glad this witty repartee is open to the public..
     
  10. csoukoulis

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    Yeah Obama's Pants Sure Are Baggy!!!
    Not at all saying this because hes black, but the pants remind me of fubu/stacy adams/sean john suits.
    Glad this witty repartee is open to the public..
    nice ninja edit!
     
  11. tmcevoy213

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    Edited bc the intended all-caps was overridden by styleforum's autoformatting. The shrewd reader will recognize the similarity in purpose.
     
  12. Testudo_Aubreii

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    This last is silly.

    [​IMG]


    Great photo of the Queen. Do you have details of the others? Is this the young Queen meets Hollywood or British film stars?
     
  13. Testudo_Aubreii

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    Ah Style Forum, a place where law students critique how custom suits fit via pictures on the internet. I don't get why we have these threads discussing people's "fits" that have no connection to the forum. It's completely pointless and only puts ideas and terms into people that don't know much about clothes' heads' that make them question salesmen and tailors and look like idiots.

    I'll take my share of the blame for derailing the thread into matters political. The reasoning in this post seems strange, though. By this logic, we should design our system of educating people on dress so that the only people allowed to do anything in ordering and evaluating clothes are either ignoramuses guided in everything by professional experts (in this case, tailors) or acknowledged experts like manton, Will, Flusser, Boyer, etc. In general, we don't think that education about x should be organized like that. We're happy to have lots of half-educated people getting involved in x, being stubborn in their opinions about x, etc. There are some exceptions (education about the proper care of nuclear waste, maybe) but I don't see why dress is one of them. Shouldn't we prefer having a bunch of half-educated clotheshounds pushing back against the hordes over having only a handful of true experts who are slowly dying out? A few of those half-educated pains-in-the-ass just might become true experts. I know I shan't be one of them, but I hope some of my cohort will be.
     
  14. Testudo_Aubreii

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    Two button and flap pockets are more of an offense. Notch lapels have always been an option on the tuxedo, the prohibition against them these days results from the association with cheap and ugly jackets made from suit patterns to save money. Which, even though I'm sure it's made by a quality maker (presuming the same HSM one he's had and wore to inaugural balls and nobel ceremony), is what Obama's jacket seems to be modeled after.

    Notice Phillip's, which is notch as well, but gets all the details right that Obama gets wrong.

    Oh, and the trousers. [​IMG]

    Michelle's dress, on the other hand, looks great.


    +1 to all that. I do think that NL DJ is wrong for a state dinner at the White House, though. Peak is the only appropriate lapel for those. Notch would be good for a dinner with 10 Congresspersons and their spouses. Shawl would be good for an evening concert at the WH, like Jackie Kennedy used to host. B. Obama would look great in a 4x1 DB shawl.

    BTW, just noticed that he's wearing a pocket square in this and the white tie pic!
     
  15. james_timothy

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    Great photo of the Queen. Do you have details of the others? Is this the young Queen meets Hollywood or British film stars?
    I don't know the others, but that is Marilyn Monroe curtsying. BhanrÃon Eilis a do was perhaps 30 in that picture. Unusually for the lady on the right, the lady on the left outshines her. There is a larger version of this photo linked off this "rare photos of famous people" page, including a great one of Alfred Hitchcock and his grandchildren.
     
  16. Diavolo

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    I was being sarcastic. I really couldn't care less if we torture terrorists. None of that is as bad as jumping 100 floors to your death from a burning building. Plus with them in our custody, is bet there was at least 1 woman saved a storing death for being raped.

    Yeah! Way to go.

    Let's hunt down all those damn ragheads Billy Bob. Why bother with a trial - everyone knows they're all guilty.

    Anyway, world's better off without them, so who cares? String 'em all up.

    Hey Bobby Lee, you got that cross ready yet - what you do'n boy, we ain't got all night.

    Praise the Lord and God save the United States of America.
     
  17. csoukoulis

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    Yeah! Way to go.

    Let's hunt down all those damn ragheads Billy Bob. Why bother with a trial - everyone knows they're all guilty.

    Anyway, world's better off without them, so who cares? String 'em all up.

    Hey Bobby Lee, you got that cross ready yet - what you do'n boy, we ain't got all night.

    Praise the Lord and God save the United States of America.


    I'm from the San Francisco bay area originally (birth to age 22, I'm 26 now), so your geographically based assumption about me isn't accurate. Have you ever even been to Dallas? Ive seen more rednecks in the central valley of California than I've seen here. Your post is about as ignorant as you're implying mine was.
     
  18. JamesX

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    I'm from the San Francisco bay area originally (birth to age 22, I'm 26 now), so your geographically based assumption about me isn't accurate. Have you ever even been to Dallas? Ive seen more rednecks in the central valley of California than I've seen here. Your post is about as ignorant as you're implying mine was.
    Pretty sure he is working off a social sterotype and not a geographical one.
     
  19. Diavolo

    Diavolo Senior member

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    I'm from the San Francisco bay area originally (birth to age 22, I'm 26 now), so your geographically based assumption about me isn't accurate. Have you ever even been to Dallas? Ive seen more rednecks in the central valley of California than I've seen here. Your post is about as ignorant as you're implying mine was.

    I'n not American but I was married in Napa. I've been to a number of US cities several times.

    The post was not aimed at you specifically, just this inherent ignorance about anything or anyone outside your borders that pervades your country - sort of thing that saw people in the US beating up Indians and Pakistanis because they assumed they were muslim terrorists.

    Apart from your annoying flag-waving chauvinism (that means aggressive patriotism BTW) it's frustrating that you make such easy assumptions about the guilt or innocence of others.

    Just torture anyone you can get your hands on, guilty or innocent - and you maintain that's reasonable.

    The average muslim hates extremists as much as you do, but that complicated concept goes over the head of most Americans as you continue to take pride in being the most insular, parochial and unsophisticated nation on earth.

    Understand now ?
     
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    Going back to clothes matters for a moment, those who love sartorial precedents (and who doesn't) may find some interesting food for thought here:

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    I can't swear, even after checking the picture over with a magnifying glass, that these gentry are wearing full evening dress, but that is my suspicion. A few things stand out apart from the variety of collars, including the strip of broguing on the toe cap of the shoes on the gentleman in the middle, the scoop neck waistcoats, the variety of styles of lapel facing, and the apparent total absence of stripes on the trousers.
     

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