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Nyt: luxury watches are back

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by AlanC, Jan 6, 2004.

  1. Kai

    Kai Senior member

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    Some of the new Pateks with ridiculous numbers of complications seem antithetical to that for which Patek once stood (i.e. elegant, understated simplicity). Â I don't understand this trendy fascination with huge and/or over-complicated (pun intended) watches. Â Give me a Patek Calatrava any day.
    I like the Calatravas quite a bit. Â Simple, elegant, and understated. Â However, given their 'simplicity', I do not see how someone can spend $16,000 on a watch like that. Â I'm not a huge fan of watches with many complications, but I think that the moon phase chart adds a unique characteristic to the watch; more so than say a chronograph. Â However, I can't imagine spending $160,000 on their flagship model.
    I'm not sure which "flagship model" you are talking about. Patek's top of the line model, the Sky Moon Tourbillon, sells for about $750,000 and there is a multi-year waiting list for them. It is indeed a bloated, overcomplicated thing, more of a curiousity than a wrist watch. However, the Patek Celestial, model, which sells for about $150,000 is, in my opinion, a thing of beauty, and is relatively simple and sleek. I have a Calatrava. To my mind, it is hard to find a more elegant watch at any price. Worth every penny as far as I'm concerned. A beautiful amalgam of classic design, engineering, and traditional craftsmanship. I wish that more things in this world were made with such quality and attention to detail.
     
  2. offshore observer

    offshore observer Active Member

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  3. VMan

    VMan Senior member

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    Ok, I was speaking about the 'lower-priced' model that sells for about $150k and is more readily available to the consumer. Is the Sky Moon Tourbillion the reversible-dial model that features the sky chart on the back and on the front has the four dials of day, tare, year, month, and moon phase? That watch is truly a masterpiece, I guess I just didn't think of it as the flagship (more like a rare artifact) because the production numbers are so low and it isn't a watch that one can simply buy when they want it.
     
  4. timekeeping

    timekeeping Well-Known Member

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    I have a Calatrava. Â To my mind, it is hard to find a more elegant watch at any price. Â
    Let's see: 1. JLC Master Ultra Thin. Â 2. AP Jules Audemars simple handwind. 3. VC Malte simple handwind. 4. Chopard LUC 1.96. 5. IWC Portugieser automatic. 6. Blancpain Villeret automatic. 7. Lange 1815. 8. Any number of simple handwind or automatic Piagets. Of course, there are plenty of others which would fit the bill. Â The above are a few off the top of my head. Â Best bang for the buck would have to be the JLC.
    Not to mention any Breguet except for the Transatlantic, Type XX and Marine models. May I also suggest the Cartier Santos? Cartier is often dismissed as jewellery but their mechanical watches are quite nice (especially the "private collection").
     
  5. mistahlee

    mistahlee Senior member

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    Will you share the basis for these assertions?
     
  6. Ambulance Chaser

    Ambulance Chaser Senior member

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    Franck Muller is a fashion watch, not a "serious" timepiece. Â ... FM is overpriced and overhyped, using a POS movement.
    Will you share the basis for these assertions?
    This is a good summary of the attitude of many watch connoisseurs toward Franck Muller. Â The recent controversy regarding Muller's possible use of Russian movements in his watches only adds more fuel to the fire. That said, Muller's use of tonneau cases and exploding numerals is certainly eye catching, and if I was looking for a "bling bling" watch to impress women in a club, Muller would be at the top of my list.
     
  7. mistahlee

    mistahlee Senior member

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    The brash young lion infuriates the old.
     

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