Gents, I've had these in my closet. I LOVE them. But I've finally come to terms with the fact I won't be (a size) 34 again. So, I'm releasing them back into the wild. NWT (Neiman Marcus tags), Unhemmed. Tagged a 34, inside waist unstretched measures 16" x 2. These are such a great color!!!! First photo with pants closed is most accurate. IRL they have no blue or purple cast. They are a dusty rose color. The weight of the fabric is great. Makes them hang like a dream. The only "flaw" - if you can even call it that - is that you can see where I've pinned one leg for hemming. That will obviously disappear with the first wash.