Alright, I'm new to this forum and I'm still learning about some of these things. I bought my first vintage watch a couple of months ago. I have to admit that I have been a sucker for big name brands. All of my shoes are Ferragamo, Gucci, and Brooks Brothers. However, I want to get my first pair of quality English shoes. I have been looking at Crocket and Jones, J.M. Weston (I know, they are French), Edward Green, and Even Church. I prefer the sleek looking shoes, but I know many English shoes tend to be more clunky. The best "value" that I have found are the handgrade Weymouth in antique brown from Bodileys. They look like the sleek look that I like and come out to about $550 which I think is reasonable especially since they are $720 at Barneys. I'm actually debating then in black over brown. Anyone have any input on these shoes? Feedback? A place to find a better price? Any help is appreciated.