Well, Foo, I never said that you don't have reasons for what you do. I have made the point that you do in this very thread. It just that some of them are very obviously wrong since they have resulted in a sort of sartorial reductio ad absurdum. Manton and Vox, however, are laying the basis for real artistic expression. On the contrary. You apparently haven't been following some of his threads as closely as you think. When I say "startle" I don't mean the what-the-hell-is-that kind. Rather, I mean the how-did-he-do-that variety. I often look at some of Manton's pics thinking, "When I dress that way, it's OK but a bit staid. When he dresses that way, it hums like a tuning fork. What exactly has he done here that I'm not doing?" That you don't see it is part of the essential tragedy.