Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Manton, Jul 27, 2012.
What about people (Eastern Asian) with a skin tone that doesn't go well with brown jackets?
Sure, but the orthodoxy now is what it is.
Truth. Mainly due to inattention to detail and context. Sad, because he has a decent sense of color. Could be much better if he tried. Tends to only be the newbies that don't realize how much he is off.
Nothing I haven't said to him before.
I ignore skin tone in my calculus. Some would say that's an egregious error, but I have never seen or heard advice oriented toward pairing clothing with skin tone that I found worthwhile.
The mind's eye tends to see skin color as skin color, whether that be brown, tan, white, etc. It does not confuse it for a piece of tweed.
True (last I checked).
But we dress ourselves for women, while many dress so that their wardrobe "go together" and for their buddies to pat them on their back, all the while being blind as a bat or deluded as the fabled Emperor.
Carry on . . .
This is fortunate, especially for those who lived before tweed was appropriate for the city.
Even if true, so what?
I don't see how dressing for women means thinking like them about how to dress.
I know we've had discussions about this before, but I have never been quite able to savvy what's wrong about navy trousers.
I rather like an open-necked shirt with a casual, summer suit. I would be flattered to be mistaken for a mobster as long as it was a don and not a "soldier." I guess I would also be flattered to be taken for a pick up artist, especially at my age!
-People with sloping shoulders should not wear soft shoulder jackets
-Only double vents. Never single
-Never wear derbies with suits
-Never wear button downs with suits
-Never buy knit ties with square ends
-Ties 3.25 to 3.5 inches wide only (40R person)
-Socks always match shoes or pants
Casual summer suit with unbuttoned shirt is fine by me, though I'd strongly prefer that shirt to have a button-down collar.
Yeah, that's what I was getting at with my posts although I didn't word it well enough. I don't want to write down 4 items to buy and have an "outfit".
I just want a navy blazer (have one now) and a few other sport coats that will be interchangeable with different trouser, shirt, and tie combos. I just want to make sure I don't make any drastic mistakes when I start doing this.
From reading these posts, I definitely need to purchase a few more greys for my pants. I recently switched to MTM for shirts and ordered a batch of 6 that are pretty much wardrobe staples. I plan on doing the same for a fall/winter wardrobe very soon. All the shirts are barrel cuff and semi-spread collar. I don't like cuff links so I stayed away from french cuff shirts.
I should be all set for shoes, I think. I have a pair of black cap toe as well as a pair of AE Strands in walnut plus a pair of Alden shoes in a more traditional and darker shade of brown and I own a pair of oxblood (cognac?) AE Park Avenue shoes as well.
im not sure what pants im going to use yet, as i havent received the jacket yet, but i have a bunch off gray office pants in all different colors and textures. i think at least one of them should work.
interesting. not enough to deter me though. certainly not in baltimore, where i work. but is good to know in case i find myself in a different setting, i may avoid it there.
considering my present stature, that works out quite well actually.
foo can you please give some examples of rough, textured cloth suitable for an odd jacket? the only thing i can think of is donegal tweed
thanks in advance
But of course! That almost goes without saying.
I do the same.
I can't do it. I've tried and feel uncomfortable. Now, a bright (e.g. orange) sweater, I don't mind so much.
I had a remarkably similar jacket about 20 years ago - same color and pattern (but Burberry). Never, ever wore it. Part of it was likely my youth, but even now I doubt I would pull it off the hanger.
I read this thread and realize I probably break more rules than I should. That said, if my wife likes how I'm dressed on a given day, I should probably go back to the closet and change something. Unless we're meeting her friends.
I have green ties: I never, ever reach for them. Probably after-shocks of parochial education. I have only recently allowed myself to wear a khaki odd jacket. (baby steps)
Loafers are not happening for me, at all, ever. I require laces.
Silk knots only with french cuffs (except black tie).
Now that almost everyone's here -- I expect Vox will be along shortly -- perhaps we should see about making this threak epic.
I have gone after Spoo on occasion myself. But he has improved quite a bit since he first started posting. So I think there is hope for him. Since I started on this forum, though, you haven't even changed your shoes.
Spoo may have an entirely too-wide comfort zone but yours is entirely too narrow, especially for anyone to ever consider emulating. In a way, you are one of the worst dressers here because you don't actually dress at all. You have said yourself that your goal is to reduce your wardrobe to a uniform so you can wear the same thing all the time. I find that utterly sad and a great waste.
It is a pity because it doesn't have to be that way. You have an outstanding eye for fit and a great deal of general sartorial knowledge. If you could break out a bit, you could rival Manton in his ability to produce outstanding CBD that is both elegant and memorable.
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