No effs given... correctly

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Cantabrigian, May 24, 2013.

  1. in stitches

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    you need then, to change the tread title. like, "no effs given....... things to avoid or you will look like a tool."

    something like that.
     
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    No, because then everyone will start listing their pet peeves, and there are plenty of threads about that already.

    The best way forward would be, IMHO, to post a picture of someone correctly pulling off an FU look a day (maybe even taken form the WAYWRN thread). Members can then dissect that look in this thread, in order to (hopefully) find out why this particular person/outfit manages to break the rules successfully. This would create a sort of archive that can be used for reference, or to point clueless newbies (like myself) and more senior members (like the ones afraid of wearing a PS) to when they have questions regarding pulling of an FU look [​IMG]

    Of course Cantabrigian is the starter of this thread, so he can do with this suggestion as he pleases.
     
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  3. VinnyMac

    VinnyMac Senior member

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    This thread's been dead for the better part of 4 pages now. Let's just let it grow organically and see where it ends up.
     
  4. Cantabrigian

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    I think that's a great idea.
     
  5. chogall

    chogall Senior member

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    So what's the diff between no eff given, peacock, #menswear, and plain silly?
     
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    Monkeyface - I agree 100%. I was just saying that if C only wanted to accomplish what I had quoted, the title is off.

    Going with your idea, which is what i was hoping this thread was going tobe about, title is perfect.

    :)
     
  7. Cantabrigian

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    Not bad, bad, beyond bad and plain silly.
     
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    As i understand it.

    no eff given and peacock are really pretty close. Tho no eff given may be about pattern coordination and eye catching items, and peacocking more about thongs like really loud patterns and big peak lapels with patch pockets... Either look can work imo, when done right.

    #menswear = trendy tumblr looks. Undone monk straps, undone collar buttons, really tight pants or jacket... These things are generally frowned upon on SF.

    Just silly - when any of the above is a total fail.
     
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  9. LA Guy

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    The essence of "no fucks given" is context independent dressing. You dress exactly as you like whether you are giving a presentation to the board, to the Nobel committee, or just going down the street for a coffee. There is no "dressing up", and significantly, there is no "dressing down".

    Someone who really doesn't give a fuck dresses for their own edification and comfort, not for any audience in particular. It first requires that you have a strongly developed sense of personal style - which is to say - a mode of dressing in which you are most comfortable. And then you dress that way regardless of occasion. You are not doing this to piss people off. You are not doing this to make people happy. You are not doing this for an audience. In fact, whether people are present or are not present is irrelevant. You are doing this because this is how you roll.
     
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    I like this but I don't think it's entirely true. It might hold that a certain aesthetic informs everything a fellow wears, but a complete refusal to adapt to social setting sounds like mental illness.

    I'd suggest that success sits at the intersection of intent and execution. It requires having something interesting to say and the vocabulary to say it.

    A lot of the stuff we see here lacks both.
     
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    in your opinion do any of the pics posted in here achieve the "no effs given" from your perspective?
     
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    In this thread, you mean? By "here" I was intending to speak more broadly.
     
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    I think that it's impossible to really tell, since most of the pictures are taken in the privacy of someone's home. I'd hope that no one would give a fuck in the privacy of their own home, or else they really need help relaxing, probably in the form of a handful of pills.
     
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    I would agree with your second paragraph, but also add that I don't think that it is in any way incompatible with my point.

    Also, I think that we've all heard that "Poor people are crazy. Rich people are eccentric." To which I say "Don't give a fuck".
     
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    Case in point being Luca Rubinacci. Now, I've never met the man. But from the way he presents himself, and writes about himself in the blog, I think him slappable, in the way I find some movie stars I'll probably never meet, punchable. He, I'm sure, does not give a fuck what I think. I find that somewhat admirable.
     

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