No effs given... correctly

Discussion in 'Classic Menswear' started by Cantabrigian, May 24, 2013.

  1. in stitches

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    they may dress well, i have no clue, lol. Tril seemed to say they dont care much about it they way others do, i was offering a guess as to why. :)
     
  2. sugarbutch

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    I know it must be difficult for some to accept, but this really does come easily to some people. They aren't grounded in knowledge of rules, historical context, blah blah fucking blah. They just pick out interesting clothes and combine them in an interesting way. So many here seem to believe that because they had to expend a lot of time and effort to arrive at their style, it's impossible for someone else to get to the same place (or beyond) with little to no effort.
     
  3. Caustic Man

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    I dunno, Tir may have some insight to their behavior that I do not. Or maybe they just like to SEEM like they don't care lol.
     
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    Styleforum: videri quam esse?
     
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    For me, the above-bolded comment is key. The point in one's sartorial journey at which they feel "liberated" comes earlier for some than others and this can be a good thing or a bad.


    This is very true.
     
  6. in stitches

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    SB - i agree 100%. some people just have it. they have a knack for putting together interesting stuff that looks good. not to say it cant be learned, but some people are just born with it.


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  7. Caustic Man

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    Haha, nice play on the phrase. What seems to be is sometimes more important than what is.
     
  8. Tirailleur1

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    Allow me to rephrase my statement. the French are great dressers especially when it comes to high end fashion. But when it comes to sartorial cues they tend to be more on the conservative side than the no effs to gives
     
  9. in stitches

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    my original reply needs no rephrasing. it was exactly correct. :D
     
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    You say that like its a bad thing and as far as wars go our batting record aint been so great either lately . I been in one and it was a real stinker
     
  11. LA Guy

    LA Guy Opposite Santa Staff Member Admin Moderator

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    This is true, and it underscores a deeper cultural struggle, that is, if not uniquely, is at least characteristically, American - we admire talent, but we resent it at the same time. We want our heroes to be test, to go through trials, to become great. Those who become great through little or no effort, we suspect them at the same time that we envy them.

    tl;dr Americans have a severe case of schadenfreude.
     
  12. Monkeyface

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    What struck me is that the average Parisian tends to be better dressed than the average Roman, while Italians are famous for their style. But of course that's just one man's observation, the Romans might have been having a bad week for all I know.
     
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    The US certainly suffers from schadenfreude, like most Western countries, as we enjoy the downfall of celebrities. But I'm not sure whether schadenfreude is the right word to accurately describe being jealous of people who effortlessly achieve greatness.
     
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    Yeah, okay. Wrong term, but the point stands.
     
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    Apologies, didn't mean to undermine your point, as I fully agree.
     

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