crucialkc, I think the Olympic M-65 and the USATF MA-1 look pretty cool. It's too bad they didn't make the MA-1 without logos like they did for the M-65. Anyways, I got one myself and am guessing they must have ended up at some outlets because the price tag on mine has residue from a removed label. I like mine, it just fits a little big. I'm in between S and XS, and the S I bought fits like a loose and boxy surplus M-65. I sort of like the overcoat feel though, especially since it's thin and light. Has anyone seen the reflective fabric that's currently on nikeid in person? I'm interested in making some free 3.0s with reflective black uppers and white soles.