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Nigel Cabourn

Discussion in 'Streetwear and Denim' started by Fuuma, Nov 14, 2010.

  1. irbe

    irbe Senior member

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    I have the FW makin and harris tweed. It does a decent job blocking out wind, but when u are talking about straight frigid temperature, not so much. Yes I know you have to layer with a sweater.
     
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    Ah, the eternal debate on Cameraman warmth. My Mac/HT AW version is great on snowy days with a sweater, down to about 0C.
     
  3. Scoobersti

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    I stopped by Filson Seattle store today to return my cape jacket (the cheaper one). I liked the cape jacket but, I returned it because I had other jackets that had a similar look. They had a coat that isn't online in store and I liked that one so I ended up exchanging for it. It's called soft hunting jacket and its made of Harris tweed, its not very heavy and less warm than the cape jacket and also won't repel water. The color on the tag says Army and I think its the same or very similar color as my army cameraman (I haven't pulled out the cameraman and put it next to each other). I found a pic of it online (the one I got is the one towards the bottom). The price was $645.

    http://www.complex.com/style/2014/09/filson-launches-cc-filson-with-nigel-cabourn
     
  4. irbe

    irbe Senior member

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    how is sizing on the hunting jacket? Brown looks interesting as I already. have army cameraman and mallory
     
  5. Scoobersti

    Scoobersti Senior member

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    I have a size 54 cameraman and I went with XL in the hunting jacket. I tried on the L and it was a little tight. There is a little extra flap with round metal vents under the armpit so I'm not 100% sure how to measure pit to pit. But, if I measure below that its 24in across.

    I didn't try on the clip coat or the adjustable hunting coat. I liked the clip coat, but it was a bit more than I wanted to spend right now so I decided not to even try it on.
     
  6. Arizor

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    I'd agree that the Cameraman needs layering to be proper winter proof, but for mild, rainy Australian winters it does me just fine!
     
  7. ike_hiking_boots

    ike_hiking_boots Senior member

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    Not a mention of Cabourn on the Filson site?

    I presume the prefix C.C. signifies it's a Cabourn designed garment?

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    I stand corrected, found this via google but does not come up on search on the Filson site:

    http://www.filson.com/filson-life/tag/nigel-cabourn/

    We’re pleased to announce the brand-new C.C. Filson Collection in collaboration with Nigel Cabourn, who was invited to create special-edition outerwear for Autumn 2014. C.C. Filson combines the quality standards of Filson manufacturing and its 117 years of history with modern-day functionality.

    With over forty years of experience in the apparel industry, Nigel Cabourn uses his firsthand knowledge of outerwear from the cold, windy climate of northern England where he’s based. Cabourn is a true specialist in outerwear, making him a choice partner for C.C. Filson.

    The Autumn 2014 C.C. Filson line consists of outerwear pieces aligned with our past, namely a 1930s vintage Filson Cruiser that inspired the design of the Work Cape Jacket. The Work Cape Jacket is water repellent with an added layer of protection over the yoke and arms, crafted out of distressed waxed cotton.

    Additional C.C. Filson Autumn 2014 items include the Adjustable Hunting Coat and Clip Coat. Each item is made at Filson, USA. Each item has a sense of history and place, underpinned by the highest level of Filson quality.
     
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  8. gus49

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    I am a bit hesitant about how the colour way will look, the Uk, I think we call that greenish tan colour khaki. When you saw the Clip Coat, how did it appear, did it come over as a khaki green more so than beige tan? As expected the pics and photos vary..
    Appreciating its for the outdoors of the USA, possibly overkill here?

    cheers
     
  9. Scott Stevens

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    I can't see any green. Looks a standard beige tan in all the photos I've seen.
     
  10. Scoobersti

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    When I saw the coat it looked more like the beige tan that Scott Stevens mentioned above. The wool on the collar and the inner lining is moss green type color. The coat itself is heavy and the fabric was stiff. It looks like it will look even better once its worn in, but since I have a job where I sit at a desk most of the time it would probably take me forever for it to wear in.
     
  11. gus49

    gus49 Well-Known Member

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    Comparing other tan colored Jackets on Filson’s web shop makes me believe its the lighting that exaggerates the greenish yellows here (from Mildblend). The pants look sandy beige in contrast to the tan coat. Its as I see it,
    Anyhow, cheers for comments again. They have made a difference.
    good weekend all.
     
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  12. Scoobersti

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    I see what you mean, I think its the contrast with the pants that he's wearing. I didn't have my tan Filson field bag with me, so I'm just going by memory, but I think the color of the jacket was close to that.
     
  13. BLAUGRANA

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    I have a lookbook for the collection and noticed the hunting jackets myself. Still even with the lookbook and the link you provided I have a couple of questions if you don't mind:

    -As regards pricing, are both priced the same? I would assume the Harris Tweed variant would be a pricier.
    -The collar on the Harris Tweed variant appears to be waxed cotton while the collar on the wool version is cordoroy.
    -So the fit is somewhat less boxy than the Cape Jacket, yes? Would you say it's comparable to a Mallory fit, IE an XL in the hunting jacket is a 54 Mallory?

    Curious about the adjustable hunting coat. How is it "adjustable?" Website says it has "
    Optional snap-closure rear gusset for freedom of movement." So it just lifts up at the back flap? I have to say it's the least interesting piece for me and those coats never seem to look right (see Barbour x Norton and Sons Uist) on me.

    I commented on this a few days ago. It doesn't come up with a search for Cabourn which I found rather odd. but they don't hide the fact that it's him once you find it. In fact the lookbook has him right on the second page before you can even view the product.

    CC Filson is the found I assume and also the full/official name of the brand. My bags all have "CC Filson" on the inside bag.

    It's a great collaboration this one. The look is very Filson and "North American" if you ask me, but you can see and feel the Cabourn touches here. All of the Filson bags I have are great quality and the jackets as I mentioned feel not different. I found some chatter about Filson as regards the Best Made Axe they sold and some folks bemoaning Filson now since they were bought out and I don't understand the criticism. Of course some of that was laughable and you had a bit of the Shinola commentary too (which I also don't understand). Granted I don't have any previous experience with the brand other than being familiar with it from photos, but the products don't seem to have changed at all for me. On top of that I don't understand how people expect a brand to survive and grow, especially with their products being as good as they are (not to mention the guarantee). These sorts of product expansions are to extent necessary and are great so long as they don't lose the "heritage" of the brand or reduce the quality. On top of that as your quote shows, made at Filson, USA, and IIRC they've even opened up a second location for production in the Seattle area.
     
  14. Scoobersti

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    I don't think I saw the brown one there so I can't verify the price, sorry. I was kind of set on the Harris tweed one because it looks like the back of the brown one is green. There was a little confusion about the pricing on the hunting jackets though. The lady helping me out showed me the lookbook and we both saw that the hunting jackets are listed at $690 in the book. But, when we looked at the tags on the coat it said $645. It also rang up as $645 at the register, so there were no issues or asking managers or anything.

    The collar and the front shoulders on the Harris tweed one is waxed cotton. I might actually stop by at the store sometime soon so I'll take a look if I can find the brown/wool one and check to see if its corduroy on that one. I'm thinking of stopping by because I've been thinking about the brown and red buffalo check cape jacket. I didn't really like the look of it online, but when I saw it in person it looked really good. It's sold out online, but they had some left at the store.

    The fit is less boxy than the cape jacket, also the arms aren't as billowy. Unfortunately I don't have a Mallory to compare it to. I think the best reference I can think of right now would be that the XL in the cape jacket was too big on me, my guess is that I'd be a large in the cape jacket and I took the XL in the hunting jacket. The Harris tweed on the hunting coat is not that thick (I heard that the Mallory has a good weight to it). I would say unless you do some good layering its more of a fall jacket.

    The adjustable hunting jacket, I didn't actually try to make the adjustment, but from what it looks like it adjust the length at the bottom. I think the shortest it becomes about a 3/4 length coat. I agree it was the one I was least interested in as well so I only took a quick look at it.
     
  15. buzzlulu

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    Nice reading the extensive comments listed above so I will keep mine brief (if possible!)

    I was in contact with the NY Filson store prior to the arrival of the Cabourn line and I went into Manhattan last Friday to view the collection. I was originally intent on purchasing the green wool accented Cape Coat (not the Red Buffalo check one) primarily based on the great pictures I received from a CONTEXT email. The way CONTEXT photographed the pieces appeared to indicate there would be a great amount of contrast between the two front materials used to fabricate the jacket. Quite to my surprise I was a bit underwhelmed when I saw it in person. I was expecting a vivid contrast when instead what I saw was an almost monochrome jacket. I asked to see the Red Buffalo check version and for some reason that particular color combination appealed to me even more. The jacket fits large (I am a 50 in the Mallory and I upsized to a 52 in the AW13 Crazy Cameraman so that I could wear a sweater underneath) and it is heavy. The medium fit me well. Its weight was nothing compared to the Tan (and it is in fact Tan and does not have a greenish tint as per the above postings) Fireman coat which was quite heavy and stiff - and quite large fitting.

    I could not help but think about the Cape Coat and the NC Cameraman together. Essentially, for me, they are similar styles - hooded jackets, four front pockets etc. The Cameraman is a much richer and classier looking coat - really no comparison between the two. One is Cabourn - the other Filson.

    I had a similar feeling when trying on both of the Hunting jackets. The waxed cotton shoulders reminded me of the Mallory however, once again, really no comparison between the Filson jackets and a genuine Mallory. The Mallory is an impeccably rich looking coat made with the finest Harris Tweed. My version, once again the Crazy AW13 one, looks like a million dollars. The Filson jackets, made in the USA from "imported" wool, did not have the feel (nor should they at half the price) of the Mallory wool.

    I do not want for people to get the impression that I came away with a negative opinion of the collection. On the contrary I feel that Cabourn did a magnificent job interpreting classic Filson pieces and bringing the brand up to date with an extremely impressive designer collaboration. Likewise for Filson I think it was a brilliant move to collaborate with Cabourn and the collection will definitely bring new customers to the Filson brand.

    The collaboration worked exactly like it should have and I am sure it will be extremely successful for both parties. For ME, and perhaps other Cabourn aficionados on this forum, the Filson items are a notch lower in the materials used ("imported wool" - who knows what it is - virgin? regenerated?) and impression they make. They are true "outdoor" garments - as well they should be when considering the Filson brand and its history. The official Cabourn collection i.e. the Cameraman, Mallory etc. simply present themselves as being in a different league - luxurious, sumptuous. unique. They simply look the part - as well as they should when considering the price points which they sell at.
     
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    How does the Mallory vest fit? I consistently wear a 50 in the Mallory and summer Notch Camo jacket while I upsize to a 52 on the Cameraman. I had the Donkey here for a trial and unfortunately it did not fit well (for me). Size 50 was way too tight on the shoulders (and stiff due to the thick seams of the leather and wool) while the 52 was a bit better in the shoulders while a bit floppy in the body. Qualify that - even the 52 was still a bit stiff up top. Shame as it was a lovely coat.

    The Mallory vest???
     
  19. ManofKent

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    I need to size up on the Mallory jacket with the vests. Going up half a size would be ideal but there isn't that luxury :)
     
  20. BLAUGRANA

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    Vest is definitely more fitted than the jacket.

    Sounds like your issue with the Donkey is what I had with the deck jacket as regards the shoulders.
     
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